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ram2008

(1,238 posts)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:39 PM Dec 2015

How Hillary handles "Datagate"at the debate will decide if I vote for her or stay home in a General

Presuming she wins the nomination of course.

If she handles it gracefully tonight and says that she supports data access being restored to Bernie now that the staffers have been fired and its no longer an issue, then I will support her in the General.

But if she decides to put a knife in Bernie's back and twist it by making it an issue of character, questioning the legitimacy of his campaign, or otherwise adding fuel to the fire by saying Bernie is being disloyal, irresponsible etc., then I will stay home in the general election.

This is the test of character and integrity I and many other Bernie supporters have been waiting to see from Hillary-- especially after what Bernie did for her with the e-mail situation in the other debate. Hopefully she passes the test.

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How Hillary handles "Datagate"at the debate will decide if I vote for her or stay home in a General (Original Post) ram2008 Dec 2015 OP
In other words RandySF Dec 2015 #1
The staffers have been fired ram2008 Dec 2015 #10
ONE has been fired RandySF Dec 2015 #14
Nope, not all of them leftofcool Dec 2015 #15
Try reading. That is not what the poster said. cali Dec 2015 #22
LOL. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #2
Amazing it isn't about how Sanders handles it. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #3
At least you don't demand that she apologize treestar Dec 2015 #4
Stand by. NurseJackie Dec 2015 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author ram2008 Dec 2015 #9
Hillary will stick to her agenda. She has no reason to go after anyone. upaloopa Dec 2015 #5
Your side was in the wrong, but you'll hold the other side's feet to the fire about it. Codeine Dec 2015 #6
Give the OP a little break Funtatlaguy Dec 2015 #8
Great OP LettuceSea Dec 2015 #11
She will go ugly on Bernie. Her campaign has already set that tone. in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #12
And Bernie's campaign steals. leftofcool Dec 2015 #16
I think Hillary has a "go for the jugular" instinct she tries to resist... Fumesucker Dec 2015 #17
Will She Put Another Log On The Fire?...... global1 Dec 2015 #13
"Sanders operatives have slapped you in the face. LuvLoogie Dec 2015 #18
Politically it would be very, very stupid for her NOT to do that LettuceSea Dec 2015 #20
I think they are going to joke about it. LuvLoogie Dec 2015 #21
It will be interesting. Do they use tonight to calm and unite, or fire up their bases? LettuceSea Dec 2015 #24
Hillary is winning redstateblues Dec 2015 #19
k&r - no matter how you vote (or abstain) at the top of the ticket, vote Democrat downballot! Attorney in Texas Dec 2015 #23

ram2008

(1,238 posts)
10. The staffers have been fired
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:49 PM
Dec 2015

They've been held responsible. To add fire to this issue and make it an attack on Bernie would be politically calculating, unnecessary and would show a lack of integrity.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
2. LOL.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:42 PM
Dec 2015

The other side thinks its ok for cops to kill unarmed citizens and that the world is 6000 years old. But its all about your principles or something.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
3. Amazing it isn't about how Sanders handles it.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:43 PM
Dec 2015

Then again, after watching his campaigns response yesterday, I understand why his supporters want all eyes back on Clinton.

Response to treestar (Reply #4)

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
5. Hillary will stick to her agenda. She has no reason to go after anyone.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:46 PM
Dec 2015

Now your guy I don't know. He says he is going to attack Hillary on foreign policy.


So did this guy


 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
6. Your side was in the wrong, but you'll hold the other side's feet to the fire about it.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:46 PM
Dec 2015

Makes about as much sense as anything else I hear lately, I suppose.

Funtatlaguy

(10,879 posts)
8. Give the OP a little break
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:47 PM
Dec 2015

OP has a lot emotionally invested in this campaign.
I get that.
And, I don't think there's anything to worry about tonight.
It will be gracefully handled, I bet.
Hillary and Bernie have been friends for years. They like and respect each other.
If Hillary gets the nomination, Bernie will do all he can to help her in November.
The thought of Trump, Cruz, or Rubio will scare all of us to death.

LettuceSea

(337 posts)
11. Great OP
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:49 PM
Dec 2015

Show me you're above it, Hillary. That's what a leader does.

Sometimes being "wrong" or "right" right at that moment is secondary to how you handle the situation.



in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
12. She will go ugly on Bernie. Her campaign has already set that tone.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:49 PM
Dec 2015

It's not part of her character to be gracious and magnanimous.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
17. I think Hillary has a "go for the jugular" instinct she tries to resist...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:57 PM
Dec 2015

And I think that instinct doesn't serve her well when she lets it slip, "We came, we saw, he died, ha, ha, ha".

LettuceSea

(337 posts)
20. Politically it would be very, very stupid for her NOT to do that
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:06 PM
Dec 2015

Yes, let's punch down and piss off the votes she's gonna need next fall.

If she's that politically dense, she's not intelligent enough for the WH.

LuvLoogie

(7,011 posts)
21. I think they are going to joke about it.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:23 PM
Dec 2015

It is more likely that Bernie will attack the DNC. The Bernie supporter in the OP projects a bunch of partisan posturing upon Hillary, when Hillary did no wrong and has comported herself gracefully and Presidentially throughout her campaign.

She is not going to attack Sanders. But I suspect that 90% of Bernie's supporters hope that Bernie attacks Hillary. And, if he does, she will defend herself. His supporters here demand the campaign be let off the hook for a low blow and allowed to keep swinging for a knockout with a roll of quarters in their fist.

LettuceSea

(337 posts)
24. It will be interesting. Do they use tonight to calm and unite, or fire up their bases?
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:36 PM
Dec 2015

I'm very concerned they're playing with fire, if victory in 2016 is THE goal.

But in the short term, it's becoming clear that both ba$e$ can benefit from the red meat. And the scenario you described would immediately give both bases what they want. But would it risk alienating those bases 10 months from now?




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