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Has Democratic Party Learned a Lesson? (Original Post) Cryptoad Dec 2015 OP
So does this mean that you don't have room for independents and Hepburn Dec 2015 #1
Voters? Of course. Candidates? Not so much. nt Codeine Dec 2015 #4
Yeah, like Charlie Crist Fumesucker Dec 2015 #9
I don't recall many being happy with that one either. nt Codeine Dec 2015 #14
Only the ones who count n/t Fumesucker Dec 2015 #17
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #12
Gonna beat this horse in every thread I guess. Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #28
You do realize it's very difficult to find people with this kind of expertise, don't you? Fawke Em Dec 2015 #29
Spam! artislife Dec 2015 #35
Democratic, please. Codeine Dec 2015 #2
Nah, let 'em fly it loud and proud, Codeine Scootaloo Dec 2015 #5
LOL. Was about to make a similar comment. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #19
LOL Matariki Dec 2015 #11
They learned that, contrary to her own beliefs, Clinton doesn't own the party. Scootaloo Dec 2015 #3
Exactly. Matariki Dec 2015 #7
No one ever said she did KingFlorez Dec 2015 #15
Actually we had a person here outright make that claim. Scootaloo Dec 2015 #25
Then please explain ejbr Dec 2015 #27
Yeah, they learned yesterday that we are legion and we are pissed. Matariki Dec 2015 #6
No problem... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #8
Especially not one that got his start with NRA backing KingFlorez Dec 2015 #10
So, you want him to run as a Third Party, kick Hillary's ass and usher in a Republican? Fawke Em Dec 2015 #23
I've learned that the DNC is a lot more fucked up than I'd previously believed. n/t winter is coming Dec 2015 #13
Democrat Party?! Nonhlanhla Dec 2015 #16
Yes Dem2 Dec 2015 #18
I am not sure. Sanders changed his affiliation to Dem. We should trust him. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #20
"Democrat Party" is a right wing pejorative redstateblues Dec 2015 #21
Maybe they've learned that to get the votes of the left they have to move to the left. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #22
+1000 UglyGreed Dec 2015 #33
I thought it was "democratic" Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #24
I wish they would learn the lesson about running on Dem principles instead of running to.... yourout Dec 2015 #26
DEMOCRAT PARTY??? When Did You OR Who Taught YOU ChiciB1 Dec 2015 #30
The right has always referred to it as the "Democrat Party". NorthCarolina Dec 2015 #34
The "Right" Decided To Use It As A Snide Smear! ChiciB1 Dec 2015 #37
You should probably use the party's correct name and not the RW version. FSogol Dec 2015 #31
The question should be are you pissed off at the data stealing that took place! FloridaBlues Dec 2015 #32
In 2008 or just now? nt artislife Dec 2015 #36
. mmonk Dec 2015 #39
Thank you Cryptoad Dec 2015 #38

Hepburn

(21,054 posts)
1. So does this mean that you don't have room for independents and
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:31 PM
Dec 2015

cross-over R voters in the Dem party?

Can't win without them.

Response to Hepburn (Reply #1)

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
29. You do realize it's very difficult to find people with this kind of expertise, don't you?
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:48 PM
Dec 2015
Security hiring challenges have worsened over the last several years. Threats are more numerous and more sophisticated; security breaches are more publicized; and CEOs, CIOs and CISOs are being held accountable for damaging hacks. It’s no surprise companies are working harder to find, hire and retain experienced security pros.

A turning point was the TJX breach in 2006, which led to data-breach disclosure legislation and increased scrutiny of corporate data-handling practices, says Larry Wilson, information security lead in the University of Massachusetts President’s Office. From then on, demand for security pros “really started to accelerate."

Data from Boston-based labor analytics firm Burning Glass highlights the spike in demand: cybersecurity job postings grew 74% from 2007 to 2013, which is more than twice the growth rate of all IT jobs. The labor pool has yet to catch up. U.S. employers posted 50,000 jobs requesting CISSP credentials in 2013, a year in which the population of CISSP holders numbered 60,000, Burning Glass said in its 2014 report.


http://www.networkworld.com/article/2893365/security0/shortage-of-security-pros-worsens.html

I work in this community - all-be-it not as a security analyst, but in another position - and I can tell you the number of data security experts is very small and very close-nit. The company I work for and our competitors are constantly hiring professionals away from each other.

But, in response to the rest of your rubbish, who cares? Honestly, why do you care who supports Bernie? I would think growing the base would be important to the DNC. But, given that Debbie W-S still has a job after her poor performance in getting Democrats elected, maybe not.
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
3. They learned that, contrary to her own beliefs, Clinton doesn't own the party.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:33 PM
Dec 2015

This appears to be a shocking, even scandalous revelation for a few people here.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
15. No one ever said she did
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:37 PM
Dec 2015

At the end of the day, primary voters still get to select who they want as the nominee. The process is still democratic.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
25. Actually we had a person here outright make that claim.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:43 PM
Dec 2015

But even absent such direct vocalization of the sentiment (It would poll poorly, obviously) it is the clearly-held belief of Clinton, her sycophants, and the goons "manning the streets" for her. The attitude of the organization being the "Clintoncratic Party" was on full display in 2008, and nothing has changed since.

ejbr

(5,856 posts)
27. Then please explain
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:44 PM
Dec 2015

the purpose of this post? If Democratic voters get to choose who best represents them, then why disallow newcomers?

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
6. Yeah, they learned yesterday that we are legion and we are pissed.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:34 PM
Dec 2015

Now they're licking their wounds and trying to figure out how to salvage this and still smear Senator Sanders. Like Rove going after Kerry's war record they're trying to go after Sander's reputation for integrity. The very thing where he's the strongest and Hillary is at her weakest.

It's so funny.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
10. Especially not one that got his start with NRA backing
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:35 PM
Dec 2015

He failed to win federal office until the NRA stepped in to send out mailers in his favor, because they wanted to get rid of a moderate Republican. Sanders has just about said he hates Democrats in not so many words, so it makes no sense why he is running in the Democratic primary.

yourout

(7,531 posts)
26. I wish they would learn the lesson about running on Dem principles instead of running to....
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:44 PM
Dec 2015

the right of Reagan while bowing to their Corporate gods.

Then maybe progressives like Bernie would be Dems from the get go.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
30. DEMOCRAT PARTY??? When Did You OR Who Taught YOU
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:48 PM
Dec 2015

to use that term? We've always been called THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY! Who's the Democrat now?? THAT'S what the Repubs started calling it... who side are YOU on????

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
34. The right has always referred to it as the "Democrat Party".
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:57 PM
Dec 2015

I'm not in the least surprised to read it here from some specific posters.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
37. The "Right" Decided To Use It As A Snide Smear!
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:02 PM
Dec 2015

They think saying DEMOCRAT Party is an insult, which is clearly what they intended it to be. THEY do it because they want to get under a REAL Democrats skin. I usually ignore it because I know when & how it started, but HERE?? BY A real Democrat?? Well, ya never know these days, do ya??

Tis sad indeed!

FloridaBlues

(4,008 posts)
32. The question should be are you pissed off at the data stealing that took place!
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:51 PM
Dec 2015

Let's keep alittle reality base.
Bernies campaign did this to themselves and it will show in the polls going forward
20- 30 points behind will be a good day.

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