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2016 Postmortem

peacebird

(14,195 posts) Sat Dec 19, 2015, 07:51 PM Dec 2015

Snopes on the Data breach

http://www.snopes.com/bernie-sanders-campaign-data-breach-controversy/

CLAIM: Staffers on Bernie Sanders' campaign deliberately and improperly accessed information about the Hillary Clinton campaign during a brief (30-40 minute-long) data security lapse.

MIXTURE
WHAT'S TRUE: During a brief security lapse due to a bug on the part of third-party campaign information data company NGP VAN, four staffers from the Bernie Sanders campaign had unauthorized access to limited data pertaining to the Hillary Clinton campaign. The DNC has since pledged to restore the Sanders campaign's access to the voter files.

WHAT'S FALSE: The data were accessed over a lengthy period; the data were "exported" or otherwise extracted; the data were of high value to the Sanders campaign.

WHAT'S UNDETERMINED: What the staffers' intent in accessing the data was; whether the Clinton campaign engaged in similar activity during the 2008 campaign but was unsanctioned (as asserted in a suit filed by Sanders' campaign against the DNC); under precisely which circumstances the staffers accessed the information; the manner in which the proprietary software operated and the ease with which such data might be accessed deliberately or inadvertently.

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Snopes on the Data breach (Original Post) peacebird Dec 2015 OP

What is True: Deliberate Smear Campaign by DWS FreakinDJ Dec 2015 #1

Seems likely. If DWS wasa concerned about illegal actions, she would have gone to cops not M$M peacebird Dec 2015 #4

What crime was committed? What illegality? randome Dec 2015 #6

40 minutes is a lengthy period of time, and... JaneyVee Dec 2015 #2

Screen captures, screen prints, html saves, screen-to-video recording software, NurseJackie Dec 2015 #8

Pure speculation on your part FreakinDJ Dec 2015 #9

Yup. Photo, print out, dropbox, fax, flashdrive, etc. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #10

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #3

: ) peacebird Dec 2015 #5

Oh oh.....truth....LOL! Segami Dec 2015 #7

Snopes is impartial and yet the Hillarians complain. senz Dec 2015 #11

Me, I want Bernie! peacebird Dec 2015 #12

Waiting for it... Hepburn Dec 2015 #13

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)

1. What is True: Deliberate Smear Campaign by DWS

Reply to peacebird (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 07:57 PM

Dec 2015

peacebird

(14,195 posts)

4. Seems likely. If DWS wasa concerned about illegal actions, she would have gone to cops not M$M

Reply to FreakinDJ (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 08:03 PM

Dec 2015

Sanders was having a great news day, 2million individual donations, endorsements by CWA and DFA.

I hope Sanders subpeonas the email and phone records from DNC& DWS as part of his lawsuit. And insists on an independent audit of the vendor (Hillarys 2008 tech guys) databases

randome

(34,845 posts)

6. What crime was committed? What illegality?

Reply to peacebird (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 08:05 PM

Dec 2015

[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)

2. 40 minutes is a lengthy period of time, and...

Reply to peacebird (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 08:00 PM

Dec 2015

Yes it was valuable data and exporting isn't needed. There are plenty of other ways to copy info, from xerox copy to thumbdrives.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)

8. Screen captures, screen prints, html saves, screen-to-video recording software,

Reply to JaneyVee (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 08:11 PM

Dec 2015

... if you can see it, it can be saved! (FACT: I don't have to "save" or "download" the this website's SQL database file in order to keep copies of information that's valuable to me.)

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)

9. Pure speculation on your part

Reply to NurseJackie (Reply #8)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 08:14 PM

Dec 2015

Had DWS reported it to the proper authorities rather than the press we might know

But then again that might defeat her purpose

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)

10. Yup. Photo, print out, dropbox, fax, flashdrive, etc.

Reply to NurseJackie (Reply #8)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 08:16 PM

Dec 2015

We'll never fully know what was taken. And one expert says that even just seeing that info is advantageous.

Uncle Joe

(58,366 posts)

3. Kicked and recommended.

Reply to peacebird (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 08:00 PM

Dec 2015

Thanks for the thread, peacebird.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)

5. : )

Reply to Uncle Joe (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 08:03 PM

Dec 2015

Segami

(14,923 posts)

7. Oh oh.....truth....LOL!

Reply to peacebird (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 08:06 PM

Dec 2015

Thank you!

senz

(11,945 posts)

11. Snopes is impartial and yet the Hillarians complain.

Reply to peacebird (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 08:20 PM

Dec 2015

They won't let any facts get between Hillary and her coronation. Anything factual is their enemy.

And why do want her? Who knows...who knows...

peacebird

(14,195 posts)

12. Me, I want Bernie!

Reply to senz (Reply #11)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 08:24 PM

Dec 2015

feelin the Bern!

Hepburn

(21,054 posts)

13. Waiting for it...

Reply to peacebird (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 08:27 PM

Dec 2015

...WHINE: "But Snopes is an RW site."

BTW: I have about 99% of the HRC supporters on Ignore...so someone let me know if that silliness has been posted! TIA...

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