2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumLast night, Bernie called for an independent audit of the database since day one...
During Hillary's response, the feed cut off so I didn't hear whether she agrees with this or only wants an audit for this specific incident.
Did she agree for a fill audit from day one? If so, then great!
If not, then why not?
Gman
(24,780 posts)They apparently worked it out before the debate.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)specific incident. Sanders has asked for a full audit by an independent company starting from the day that all three campaigns started accessing the database. It is why his campaign wants the lawsuit to go forward because the DNC hasn't agreed to a full audit.
Sanders POINTEDLY proposed a full audit. Everyone I asked does not remember if she agreed or not with a full audit from day one and I cannot yet find a transcript of the debate.
Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)She only said she wanted an independent audit, she did not say anything about a full audit from day one however.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)An independent investigation.
Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)that we get that full audit? That damned place belongs to all of us.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)And anyone here that is MoveOn or DFA member, please contact them.
Segami
(14,923 posts)The DNC has hired vendors. On two occasions, there were breeches in information two months ago. Our staff found information on our computers from the Clinton campaign. And when our staffers said, "whoa, what's going here?" They went to the DNC quietly.
They went to the vendor and said, "hey, something is wrong," and that was quietly dealt with. None of that information was looked at. Our staffer at that point did exactly the right thing.
A few days ago a similar incident happened. There was a breach because the DNC vendor screwed up, information came to our campaign. In this case, our staff did the wrong thing -- they looked a that information. As soon as we learned that they looked at that information - we fired that person. We are now doing an independent internal investigation to see who else was involved.
Thirdly, what I have a really problem, and as you mentioned - this is a problem, I recognize it as a problem. But what the DNC did arbitrarily without discussing it with us is shut off our access to our information crippling our campaign. That is an egregious act. I'm glad that late last night, that was resolved.
SANDERS: Fourthly, I work -- look forward to working with Secretary Clinton for an investigation, an independent investigation, about all of the breaches that have occurred from day one in this campaign, because I am not convinced that information from our campaign may not have ended up in her campaign. Don't know that.
But we need an independent investigation, and I hope Secretary Clinton will agree with me for the need of that.
Last point. When we saw the breach two months, we didn't go running to the media and make a big deal about it. And it bothers me very much that, rather than working on this issue to resolve it, it has become many press releases from the Clinton campaign later.
MUIR: But Senator, you do mention the DNC -- the vender. But you said of your staff that they did the wrong thing.
SANDERS: Absolutely.
Bernie Sanders apologizes to Hillary Clinton
MUIR: So, does Secretary Clinton deserve an apology tonight?
SANDERS: Yes, I apologize.
MUIR: Secretary Clinton...
(APPLAUSE)
SANDERS: Not only -- not only do I apologize to Secretary Clinton -- and I hope we can work together on an independent investigation from day one -- I want to apologize to my supporters. This is not the type of campaign that we run.
And if I find anybody else involved in this, they will also be fired.
MUIR: Secretary Clinton, he has apologized. How do your react?
CLINTON: I very much appreciate that comment, Bernie. It really is important that we go forward on this.
I know that you now have your data back, and that there has been an agreement for an independent inquiry into what did happen.
Obviously, we were distressed when we learned of it, because we have worked very hard -- I said in the beginning of this campaign, we want to reach as many voters as possible, and we have tens of thousands of volunteers doing that, and entering data all the time to keep up with what people are telling us.
And so, now that, I think, you know, we have resolved your data, we have agreed on an independent inquiry, we should move on. Because I don't think the American people are all that interested in this.
(APPLAUSE)
artislife
(9,497 posts)Damn. So it is a no, because she went close to it on a couple occasions, but not fully there.
jfern
(5,204 posts)winter is coming
(11,785 posts)day one unless forced to it... and then it will happen very slowly, for no good reason.
artislife
(9,497 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)As she should.
I think both Bernie and Hillary handled that situation like adults last night.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)A friend sent me the audio. Zero commitment to a full audit. She talked her way around it.
If you are a Hillary supporter, are you ready to demand a full audit from day one?
Both handled it with class, and I'm glad Sanders took care of business on his end.