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pnwmom

(108,994 posts)
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 03:49 PM Dec 2015

How come Bernie's campaign manager and everyone else failed to inform BERNIE of the data breach?

Isn't that inexcusable? That Bernie had to learn about it 24 hours later from Debbie Wasserman?

Imagine his shock. I'm surprised that whoever knew and didn't tell him is still working for him.

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How come Bernie's campaign manager and everyone else failed to inform BERNIE of the data breach? (Original Post) pnwmom Dec 2015 OP
Let me think, who should have been the person to inform him? winter is coming Dec 2015 #1
Weaver knew and didn't tell him, because Weaver had been contacted by the vendor. pnwmom Dec 2015 #2
Yep Andy823 Dec 2015 #13
How did Bernie's people know a data breach upaloopa Dec 2015 #3
Good questions. n/t pnwmom Dec 2015 #7
Continuous trial and error? The world may never know. NurseJackie Dec 2015 #14
This thread is yet another example of why I said it does NOT MATTER who randys1 Dec 2015 #26
I doubt that ceasing to talk about it here will have an effect on this "real world" that ... NurseJackie Dec 2015 #28
Oh I agree, it is too late. I am talking about the real world, not DU. randys1 Dec 2015 #29
One of the guys on bernies campaign use to work for VAN. boston bean Dec 2015 #16
Not how it works AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #43
By doing a search of her name in their own system AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #42
What's your source for the assertion that Sanders learned of the breach from DWS? n/t winter is coming Dec 2015 #4
Many sources reported the same thing. And no one ever blamed Bernie because Debbie said pnwmom Dec 2015 #8
Quoting and requoting Wasserman doesn't make for "many sources" Matariki Dec 2015 #17
She was making Bernie look good. But sure, let's not believe her. Let's believe pnwmom Dec 2015 #18
No, she was trying to make it look like Bernie's out of touch with his campaign. winter is coming Dec 2015 #23
The source is DWS Matariki Dec 2015 #15
She was attesting to his complete innocence. So if you choose not to believe her that's fine with me pnwmom Dec 2015 #19
No, she isn't. n/t winter is coming Dec 2015 #20
She isn't a reliable source? Matariki Dec 2015 #21
I think you replied to the wrong post. winter is coming Dec 2015 #24
Thanks Matariki Dec 2015 #25
Weaver has never denied the fact that Bernie learned of breach a day after the fact-- riversedge Dec 2015 #40
Good soldiers. Just like the ones around Rahm. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #5
It's a politically and emotionally immature campaign.nt sufrommich Dec 2015 #6
I remember Christie claiming the same thing about bridgegate. MoonRiver Dec 2015 #9
Debbie Wasserman Shultz must be lying about Bernie not knowing about it Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #38
So now you're a fan of DWS! MoonRiver Dec 2015 #45
Oh for all I know she might be a nice person. I just don't think she should be in Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #46
My guess is that it was a combination of things mythology Dec 2015 #10
Bernie SHOCKED by the data breach??? Gamecock Lefty Dec 2015 #11
They probably thought they resolved it and it was a non-issue. bobbobbins01 Dec 2015 #12
Imagine our shock that the vendor that released the buggy software is still working for us. n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2015 #22
Incompetence. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #27
Sanders reacted apparently rather quickly, he fired one and has Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #30
He acted very quickly -- after Wasserman, but not his own staff, informed him. n/t pnwmom Dec 2015 #32
having trouble coming up with stuff, are ya? pangaia Dec 2015 #31
It's hard to get "cream of the crop" advisors on a shoestring budget. oasis Dec 2015 #33
thought the berns had lots of money? Cha Dec 2015 #35
Lots of "donors". oasis Dec 2015 #44
Yeah, When did he find out about it? Cha Dec 2015 #34
About 24 hours after the vendor called the DNC and they called the campaign. n/t pnwmom Dec 2015 #37
So in those 24 hrs.. they surely weren't trying keep it from BS? Cha Dec 2015 #39
well at least we can all agree on the need for a thorough and fully independent Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #36
You can bet the feds are doing a thorough investigation. joshcryer Dec 2015 #41

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
13. Yep
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 04:37 PM
Dec 2015

Weaver should have told Bernie as soon as he found out, and Bernie could have called a press conference and got it all out in the open. Since Weaver waited it put Bernie in a hard spot, and it wasn't till the debate we heard him talk about this. I think he is getting some bad advise and it sounds to me like it is coming form Weaver.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
3. How did Bernie's people know a data breach
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 03:57 PM
Dec 2015

was available.

Did they know a patch was being added? They had to do something proactive to get Hillary's data.

Maybe they are trying to hack into the firewall 24/7 and got lucky.

They knew what files to download. They took the names of people that were not 100% committed.

That was no accident.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
26. This thread is yet another example of why I said it does NOT MATTER who
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 06:43 PM
Dec 2015

did what, when, or why.

Because making it public just hurts BOTH candidates.

As it has done.

And yet here we all are, still discussing it, still spreading negativity on both candidates.

Bernie because of the obvious and Hillary because it looks like the DNC is doing her bidding.

I can assure you this is the case out in the real world.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
28. I doubt that ceasing to talk about it here will have an effect on this "real world" that ...
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 06:47 PM
Dec 2015

... you mention. (There's more to the world than this safe little bubble?)

A cease-fire here won't change anything that these "real worlders" are discussion. Literally NOBODY I know in real life has ever heard of this place. Nobody!

randys1

(16,286 posts)
29. Oh I agree, it is too late. I am talking about the real world, not DU.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 06:50 PM
Dec 2015

What I wish I could find are more Hillary supporters who would agree with me that if exposing this to the public cost Hillary ONE vote, it was not worth it.

And I am sure that it has.

I wish one group of supporters, if both arent capable, could do big picture stuff.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
43. Not how it works
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 07:18 AM
Dec 2015

When the firewall comes down, a search in their own system will bring up results from both systems. That's how it works. That's how you know.

Conversely, any searches of Sanders name by Hillary's campaign at the time the wall is down will bring up Sanders data. Thus the need for a FULL investigation.

The president of Van worked in the Clinton white house. The server admin for Van previously worked for Hillary. Nice try.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
42. By doing a search of her name in their own system
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 07:16 AM
Dec 2015

And her campaigns crap coming up on their screen. That's how it works in the IT world.

pnwmom

(108,994 posts)
8. Many sources reported the same thing. And no one ever blamed Bernie because Debbie said
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 04:10 PM
Dec 2015

from the very beginning that when she called him 24 hours later -- to make sure he had gotten the word -- he was clearly shocked.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sanders-threatens-to-sue-dnc-if-access-to-voter-list-isnt-restored/2015/12/18/fa8d6df8-a5a2-11e5-ad3f-991ce3374e23_story.html

Landing at the airport in Manchester, N.H., ahead of Saturday’s debate, Wasserman Schultz said that Sanders himself was unaware of the breach until she called to discuss it 24 hours after it took place. “He was stunned,” she said. “I know that Sen. Sanders had absolutely nothing to do with this. .?.?. Unfortunately, he has staff who acted inappropriately, and they need to be held accountable.”

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
17. Quoting and requoting Wasserman doesn't make for "many sources"
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 04:42 PM
Dec 2015

She's as trustworthy as your dog with a roast beef sandwich

pnwmom

(108,994 posts)
18. She was making Bernie look good. But sure, let's not believe her. Let's believe
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 04:56 PM
Dec 2015

Bernie knew all along and didn't do anything till she called him. That's fine with me if that's your story.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
23. No, she was trying to make it look like Bernie's out of touch with his campaign.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 06:33 PM
Dec 2015

I wouldn't trust DWS to give me the correct time of day.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
15. The source is DWS
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 04:40 PM
Dec 2015

and "many sources" are just quoting her press conference. And she is certainly not a reliable source.

pnwmom

(108,994 posts)
19. She was attesting to his complete innocence. So if you choose not to believe her that's fine with me
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 04:57 PM
Dec 2015

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
24. I think you replied to the wrong post.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 06:34 PM
Dec 2015

Or perhaps I was too vague--I agree with you that DWS isn't trustworthy.

riversedge

(70,299 posts)
40. Weaver has never denied the fact that Bernie learned of breach a day after the fact--
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:55 AM
Dec 2015

and that was when DWS called him. She made this fact known on national TV. If not true then I am sure Weaver would have jumped on it like he did everything else during is not so good for optics press conference

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
5. Good soldiers. Just like the ones around Rahm.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 03:59 PM
Dec 2015

Willful ignorance. It can go a long way in politics and Sanders is a career politician. He knows the tricks.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
38. Debbie Wasserman Shultz must be lying about Bernie not knowing about it
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:40 AM
Dec 2015

and him being a highly ethical person?

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
46. Oh for all I know she might be a nice person. I just don't think she should be in
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 11:42 AM
Dec 2015

her position. I just don't see the point of believing someone is guilty of something that they have not even been accused of doing. That just doesn't make sense to me.

But let's have a full and impartial and credible and thorough auditing and investigation - If you are right - then Bernie will be held accountable and Hillary's campaign and the DNC Chair will be exonerated. But given that Bernie and his campaign wants this auditing and Hillary's campaign and the DNC does not want it - I kind of doubt that will be the result.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
10. My guess is that it was a combination of things
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 04:27 PM
Dec 2015

Sanders is kind of busy running for President and being a Senator. I think coupled with the staffers wanting to keep this quiet and assuming the DNC would just shrug at it, they may not have told him, especially if the people responsible for the breach or reporting it to Sanders were downplaying what was done.

Gamecock Lefty

(700 posts)
11. Bernie SHOCKED by the data breach???
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 04:32 PM
Dec 2015

Yea right - he's a good actor. Or a bad one.

They'll do, try and say anything to beat Hillary. They see this election slip slip slipping away. Try, try again, Bernie.

bobbobbins01

(1,681 posts)
12. They probably thought they resolved it and it was a non-issue.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 04:32 PM
Dec 2015

They didn't realize they were pawns in DWS's power play.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
27. Incompetence.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 06:43 PM
Dec 2015

Which is why I have no faith in his campaign team to deliver us a national electoral victory.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
30. Sanders reacted apparently rather quickly, he fired one and has
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 06:53 PM
Dec 2015

Suspended two, found himself in an embarrassing situation, apologized during the debate, in a time he should have getting coached for the debate he was having to handle his office. Instead of clearing his mind to prepare mentally he attention was diverted. All of this thanks to actions of his staff.

oasis

(49,407 posts)
33. It's hard to get "cream of the crop" advisors on a shoestring budget.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 09:14 PM
Dec 2015

While visions of "revolution" may attract many on the left, the heavyweights take their talents to campaigns with promise.

oasis

(49,407 posts)
44. Lots of "donors".
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 07:50 AM
Dec 2015

It's hard to scoff at millions of small donations, but how would they stack up against a billionaire GOP colossus like Sherman Adelson in the GE?

He could write one check and cancel them out.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
36. well at least we can all agree on the need for a thorough and fully independent
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:36 AM
Dec 2015

audit and investigation so that those who did something wrong - regardless who they are or who they work for - can be held accountable and those who acted in good faith will be exonerated. Then we can correct the problems that created this mess and make sure it never happens again.

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