Here is an update:

http://blog.ngpvan.com/news/data-security-and-privacy

They should have been denied access until they proved they had no stored HRC data.

...they are operating under the terms of a contract.

By your reasoning, that's just window dressing or something, because apparently in your world, a party to a contract who believes they have been wronged can just dispense with the terms of the contract.

Or maybe you regard contract terms as just suggestions?

...which you, apparently do not.

We all know that his staff acted inappropriately. He fired one and suspended two others. He apologized to Sec. Clinton on stage. So that is not in dispute.

What is in dispute is the actions by the DNC that were in clear violation of the terms of their contract.

Is there one more recent than that? That's kind of old news.

That update doesn't establish Weaver lied at all.

The Sanders campaign said, including Josh (the fired data manager on MSNBC I beleive), at the outset on the first day, that the October breaches involved other software vendor(s) - not NGP VAN. I think the Sanders campaign described them or one of them as vendors of modeling software during the first press conference.

Another fact: the breach was well under two hours. Something like 41-47 mins which confirms to me that Politifact couldn't read the logs they link. Therefore, Politifact are not really qualified to link the logs and make a call like they're trying to do. They messed up on some pretty basic stuff there.

In my opinion, Those logs from what I've analyzed back up what Josh was saying. They almost defy it to be any other way without stretching things to unusual expectations to accommodate a theory.

Another thing, Politifact failed to consider the essence of what Sanders was saying -"We didn't go out and take it"- the Sanders campaign didn't break in/cause this security lapse. Nor did they download or seize data (aside from one summary report that the software vendor wasn't freaking out over). I think what they said is mostly true.

I've worked in a variety of databases that use "lists". For publishers, they have something roughly similar to a voter record - a subscriber with name, address, phone number, etc and they generate their lists using unique data fields (like a campaign) to analyze, sell the list to a company who wants to mail a flyer, print mailing labels, etc. Collection agencies have something similar to a voter record - a debtor with name, address, phone number, etc and they generate lists for processing the data to various collectors (kind of like campaign callers), predictive dialers, auto/robodialers etc (like a campaign) There are many applications where people use databases to generate a list of records (just the item identifiers).

When you generate lists, you then nearly always have to do something with that list to get the value out of it. Otherwise, it's just a long string of meaningless unique items IDs (probably voter numbers sequentially assigned as they get added to the database). You might get a count saying X number of records are in that list. But that's it. And the fields they did the actual selections on were so broad and incomplete because they didn't do all the possible selections to get a full array of results. So the lists counts even have limited use. I just don't see much value in it. It would be sufficient to prove the breadth of a security breach like Josh claimed but it lacks anything really sinister - since they didn't download any of these lists or use them to process reports, etc. They just proved they could access Clinton data by generating them which they had to do because they already had access to their own data.

The auditor will ultimately settle this. Politifact most certainly cannot.

...no shit.

Doesn't say much about accountability in the WH. What to expect when he's expected to be accountable for the entire government...they made us steal and cheat? Less than inspiring and his bluster is a transparent dodge; a tell.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/dec/22/bernie-s/Sanders-take-Clinton-voter-data/
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Mostly False
Sanders
"We didn't go out and take" information from the Hillary Clinton campaign.

— Bernie Sanders on Sunday, December 20th, 2015 in an interview on NBC's "Meet the Press".
Sanders spins the facts when he says campaign did not 'go out and take' Clinton data

By Jon Greenberg on Tuesday, December 22nd, 2015 at 3:19 p.m.
Sanders Apologizes to Clinton Over Data Breach
AP
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We reached out to the Sanders campaign for comment and did not hear back.

Our ruling

Sanders said that his campaign did not go out and take information from the Clinton campaign. From all accounts, it is true that the Sanders campaign did not attempt to break into the voter data of a rival campaign. The Sanders people stumbled upon a glitch.

But rather than reporting the glitch immediately, they probed the database for a bit under two hours. At some point, the staff produced a page of information that at the very least would show the count of certain voters.

Experts familiar with the Democratic voter data base say that the Sanders campaign would have gleaned valuable information. At the end of the day, they knew some things about the Clinton campaign that they hadn’t known before, even if they didn’t seek to crack into the Clinton data.

We rate Sanders’ claim that the campaign didn’t "go out and take" information as Mostly False.

Bernie's fans will believe anything! No matter how ridiculous! Amazing! No wonder they're all going ape shit over this and claiming that no data was stolen!

One of the reasons he hasn't dropped this idiotic lawsuit and even keeps talking about this when it is CLEAR AS CRYSTAL that keeping this going does absolutely NOTHING but make him look worse and worse is because his fans keep screaming that everything he does is noble and valiant.

He's just giving his crowd what they want. And if everybody else gets screwed and goes down in the process, it's pretty clear they're all okay with that.

He's in a tough spot. Hope his better angels will eventually win out.

Yet you continue to propagate that lie about the data being stolen.

W-H-A-T-E-V-E-R.

... folders with saved data indicate otherwise. Bernie's firing of his communications director says otherwise.

"Whatever" indeed.

Are you a Database Administrator? Network administrator? System administrator?

Didn't think so.

Same group is also deflecting like mad in order to say the problem is elsewhere. I actually agree their are other problems in the party but the lack of taking responsibility on this one and the dishonest manner in which they are repeating falsehoods is transparent at this point.