I am sick to shit of remarks like this.

... do justice for their candidate. We just have an influx of old Ron Paul supporters on this board. It will go away eventually.

I'm also sick of it, but it will quickly pass. Flies time.

Old Ron Paul and Naderites pretending to be Democrats here are the meanest, nastiest posters around. And the funny thing is, they think they're fooling us.

But it was more interesting last spring.

and Nader has made a lot of good points over the years. You Hillary people do not get it, we are not followers of anything but our heartfelt values and our desire to remove the oligarchy. We would not follow Ron Paul but we can analyze and consider ideas without being a fan. Hillary people continue to try to rationalize their choice without considering the Progressive values that as Democrats we are supposed to share.

Otherwise I stay mostly with my unaffiliated status. We do not have Independents here in Kansas, or did not since I came back for Bernie. We caucus so I have to be a Democrat. Tell you why, are you even interested? The Democratic party here is as right as any party. They tell you that you do not really get to represent another besides who they have chosen. At the second rounds of the caucus, I was told that it was Kerry or I could go home. Screw the people who sent me to caucus for another. I have friends that have been clawing their way to the top of the party and working hard to make it actually be liberal. We had a guy running things who wanted the party to accept anti abortion policies and anti gay policies, that is what it was. I help them as an unaffiliated person, when they need me to vote Democratic I change to the Dems IF the Dem is an actual liberal, I will never vote for someone espousing RW points. I have never voted for Ron Paul nor do I think he or Rand have a decent bone in their bodies with the exception of their anti war stances and that is all I really care to know about them. I toyed around with Nader because I live in Kansas, my vote has never actually counted on a National level, I could vote for Santa Claus and it would count as much as a vote for a Democrat. I did not vote for Nader, not for the reasons I usually see here spoken by people who hate the man regardless of the excellent things he has done for this nation before he ran against Bush**.

I find your comments stupid, clueless, rude and without merit. Unless someone has told you where they stood before, you have no fucking clue. You want to make Bernie supporters out to be horrible people? Clean your own house first.

Otherwise I stay mostly with my unaffiliated status.

I find your comments stupid, clueless, rude and without merit.

You want to make Bernie supporters out to be horrible people?

Clean your own house first.

into being hidden but I can assure you what you have said here is absolute crap. You don't know but you sure seem to think you can pin things on people you do not know..Being unaffiliated is not being a Rand Paul supporter or a Nader supporter.

In Kansas many times there is no one running but a couple of republicans. If one is a horror and the other better it is easy to then move over and block the tea party people and I will do that if they are running unopposed or vote for the least likely to be able to beat a Democrat who is running. So take your "snake oil" and peddle it elsewhere. I had not wanted to block you but this is just disgusting as is the entire line of crap you are suggesting because you do not know anything about most of these people, your assumptions prove what people always say about assuming too much.

And if the shoe doesn't fit, don't worry about it. But it does appear to fit a lot of other Sanders supporters on this site...even the ones I've deemed too intelligent to fall for his snake-oil. And yet, they do. It boggles the mind.

...how many MORE times you can use

snake oil

at least ten times.

Promise us a whole new take on the Star Wars saga this holiday season. have to say; i was not quite prepared for this kind of change.

Truer words were never spoken.

The guy has a legislative record of approximately nothing.

He's run his mouth for years and not gotten anything done. Oh, I know, let's give him a bigger chair so he can be an even more ineffective joke!

quotation marks.

But fact remains, he's got NO allies, NO friends, NO clout in Congress, therefore, his pie-in-the-sky snake-oil ain't gonna sell so they're never going to come to fruition. I know. I know. It's painful to accept, but those be the hard trufe.

remember the Democratic Party before the DLC. Maybe one day the neoliberals will branch off like the tea-party and allow us to have our party back.

Like who? I know you can't name names, but a thread link would help. This is an extraordinary claim.

Lets see, we've been called Paulites, Putinistas.

When did this start, all the way back in November?

Trouble is, the more they exercise it, the weaker it gets.

That ridiculous swipe totally ruined the rest of the post

then slap us. I'm touched by some people's support. Really. And now, excuse me I have a thread to trash.

but i still recced because the article did mention the 1800 peops turn out

if talking about hc's potty time is the only way to get a sliver of news reported about bernie's huge turn outs, i can live with that

K and R

"scandal" about Hillary going to the bathroom. For God's sake. It's Trump that's disgusting.

She had to use the bathroom. So what? Some folks need to get over it.

you would know it's the most important thing going on in our nation right now by the way they've been talking about it on every show.

Is your memory that short?

This first link here had 53 recs before the OP apparently realized it shouldn’t have been posted and took it down. And there were plenty of nasty, sexist responses to my OP, too, at the third link.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251931777

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=925496

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251931800

... you claim there's "OP's right here with scores of recs disparaging Hillary for her bathroom use."


Why don't you leave playing the victim to Sarah Palin? Your poutrage is bullshit.

Jut because the poster decided to take it down doesn't mean it didn't happen -- and it drew lots of attention from people who wanted to insult Hillary,.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251931777

on the bathroom issue.

As Bernie himself would never stoop to do.

"OP's" is plural, yet the only OP you can cite with "scores" of recs is a deleted post.

Why don't you focus on your chosen candidate's policy positions instead of being poutraged over some perceived slight by anonymous posters on a discussion board?

Perhaps you can provide a rationale for her speech and vote in support of Bush's Iraq war.

Perhaps you can provide a good reason for her vote against banning cluster bombs.

Perhaps you can explain why more H1B Visas would be good for American workers.

Perhaps you can explain why she pushed for fracking while SOS.

Why don't you acknowedge that sexism and discrimination against women are still real problems in this country?

And that the way ABC treated Hillary, the way many DUers are treating her, is all a part of it?

... that Hillary's policy positions that I listed are a real problem, or are you OK with them?

Leave the victim card behind and stand up for your candidate, if you can.

which i personally thought was funny since regular woman potty in bathrooms with lots of other people in adjoining stalls all the time

realized it was both untrue and unfair to Hillary.

The O'Malley staffer was trying to spin the staffer's act of courtesy -- allowing the MOM staffer to use the bathroom before Hillary got there -- into an act of elitism. As if Hillary was too special to share the bathroom with her.

Hillary wasn't even there when the staffer asked to use the bathroom. And the staffer and Hillary must have passed each other as Hillary was going in.

The route from the stage to the bathroom had been timed at 1.75 minutes -- leaving Hillary only a minute and a half to use the bathroom before her return trip of 1.75 minutes. If she HAD stayed outside, waiting for the staffer to leave, she never would have gotten back to the stage as quickly as she did -- just seconds late. She OBVIOUSLY entered the bathroom as soon as she got there. She didn't dawdle outside or she would have had even less time than the minute and a half she was allowed.

Which is far less than most women need!

P.S. No one else seems to have noticed that the MOM staffer was hardly a neutral witness in this situation. She had a vested interest in making the opposition look bad.

this is a distraction from the issues facing the 99%...

i only told that poster what the deleted op was about because that was funny stuff ,it was you using that deleted op as a point that bernie supporters=bad, that compelled me

I don't understand the constant need to use every issue to bash supporters of Bernie Sanders. It's so counter productive.

And I haven't seen nearly as many people here bash Bernie personally as I've seen bash Hillary. Have you?

This poster was in your other OP.

that is "bash anything Clinton". I will be honest, Bernie is my guy. But this senseless witch hunt of anything Clinton is tiring.

she didn't just want to bake cookies in the White House

The nerve of that woman, thinking she should be able to accomplish something significant!

I have stated in the past that I don't agree with all of her positions, and have also said I will support her if she wins the nomination. That has earned me enemies in both camps. DU is tough these days.

with hate talk like something Rush could have said.

Because at the end of the primary we all have to join together again and support whoever is the nominee.

It makes me feel better that at least one person agrees with me.

There are always excesses on all sides.

However, there is also legitimate, and spirited criticism of candidates, policies and institutional biases.

But too often legitimate disagreement and criticism of Clinton ,Obama or or anything that doesn't fit into a narrow template of "team spirit" is called "hate" and as "anti-Obama" and "Hillary hate" and all kind of other stuff.

Blanket statements like that are not helpful. They also create a feedback loop in which nastines begets nastiness.

complete with a nasty puerile jab at his supporters.

Your one goal seems to stir shit.

But nice try.

I've been trying to stay out of the fray, and am undecided on who to support, yet I was actually banned from the Bernie Sanders group for this post:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=87373

When you see something like this OP, about how great Bernie is, and how he sticks up for Hillary when attacks on her get so personal, it really makes you wonder how he would feel about how unwelcoming (to put it nicely) the Bernie camp is here at DU.

A little kindness goes a long way toward getting people to consider your viewpoint.

They're just supporters of the most viable not-Clinton.

Which is why you see such disparity between the two.

The goal of that particular subset isn't to support Sanders, really...it's to USE him to whip up discontent and divisiveness within the Democratic Party.

Come primary day, they'll be voting for someone else. And chuckling.

Let's just let the chips fall, shall we?

is in lockstep. I'm not asking for a link unless there is one detailing this grand and clever slight of vote by said subset. It just seems a bit too CT for me.

Chuckling, no less.

Although many voters like Bernie and his positions on the the issues (not all his positions necessarily), but it also helps to be "not Clinton".

... are RW trolls who post anti-HRC/ anti-Democratic Party bullshit while using "I'm a Bernie supporter" as a shield to hide behind while doing so.

I would go on - but, ya know what? It's not even an argument worth making anymore.

Suffice to say that in the days of the Mods (who actually judged the appropriateness of posts based on the TOS, and not on their personal likes/dislikes of posters), this site was an awesome place for Democrats to gather and discuss.

Nowadays - not so much.

How did you expect him to react?

His fans should take a cue from him:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/128086196

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251931777

I do think a lot of the "internet behavior" on the part of some (not all) of the Sanders crew is less than stellar. I think some of them take their cues from some of Sanders' more abrasive staffers.

Clinton's supporters are less inclined to indulge in that sort of pointless poll freeping and creating armies of fake supporters by clicking, repeatedly.

This particular troll (see link), though, was funny--but it did kind of "out" what they do:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/sanders-supporters-hijack-fox-news-user-poll-give-bernie-41-of-total-vote/

It really only have been worth mentioning if she turned to OMalley and Sanders and said, "Boys don't you wash your hands?"

I heard them say that Hillary shouldn't have to go to the bathroom at all during the 2 hour debate; that she was acting like a queen; that she was attention-seeking, etc. etc. etc.

I blame the whole thing on the network (and I think you'll agree). It would have been ridiculously easy to cover, and it should have been.

Or running stories for days to shame Hillary? ABC must have just found out people go to the washroom, just like tRunp did...

The whole thing would be laughable if it did not involve choosing the leader of the most powerful country on earth.

The corporate media doesn't care at all. They know they are entrenched and in power.

of his supporters.

Not all. But, unfortunately, some of them had very nasty things to say.

But I wrote this OP more for people like you, actually.

Because the nasty ones I'm sure wouldn't learn anything from it -- considering they haven't learned anything from watching Bernie all this time.

That was great!

That's about as close to a perfect Trump-slam as you're going to see, and Sanders did it politely and with no crazed hyperbole.

If he makes turns out to be our candidate, then I will happily support him!

….very bad supporters love him!

Wonder of HRC or any of her supporters could ever say anything so gracious about him. Haven't heard it yet.

His wife is a lucky woman—he's always so gallant.

That is, those special glasses that allow some Democrats to only see the positive aspects of their preferred candidate, and the flaws (or smears) of the other.

I have heard numerous HRC supporters at different times express admiration of Bernie, or of something Bernie said.

Unfortunately they are in the minority, but still I appreciate those folks and think there is a possibility of some of them coming over to the Bernster, in good time.

And it did happen in 2008, when HRCers crossed over to O. So it could happen again. Let's hold the thought.

What a perfect comment.