If you're saying a "Bill Clinton-type" governor, who was about as known as Clinton was in 1992 would have a hard time winning, I agree.

But the American people and Democrats still like Bill Clinton, despite what you hear from some in these parts. He is still seen as a competent President. Had he been able to run for a third term, he would have crushed that beady eyed idiot frat boy who was appointed to the office.

I think it's an interesting point of view.

This article is like saying Chuck Yeager wouldn't be able to fly to the moon.

Those were some of the best economic times we've had in the last 60 years. And not just for the top, or in the aggregate. Median household income reached its all-time high in the 1999 or 2000, and despite Obama's best efforts, we still haven't gotten back there (thanks for nothing, Bush). Inflation was under control, unemployment was low, and we had a balanced budget. And a strong argument could be made that it was Bill Clinton's 1993 economic plan, which passed with zero Republican votes, that set the era on its path.

As a party, we should be damned proud of what we as a party achieved then. It's Exhibit A in our case that Democrats govern better than Republicans. Exhibit B would be the Obama years.

he didn't cause the economy to explode, the Internet did. He was well liked, yes, and people remember the time when there were jobs, but those jobs have all gone away. We are in worse shape economically because of Bill Clinton. All those middle class blue collar jobs are now gone because of NAFTA. And as far as Obama goes, yeah more jobs were created, but they are part time jobs that used to be full time jobs. When you look at the real facts, Bill Clinton didn't do much to improve people's lives.

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We never had it so good-- literally, if you measure median household income.

Like I said, the Democrats have a weird tendency to downplay their own accomplishments. If a Republican had presided over a period like that, we'd never stop hearing about how great the GOP is and why this means their policies have succeeded. In fact, I remember that in the 1990s, Republicans were arguing that the good times were because of... Ronald Reagan.

As a party, we need to learn to play politics better. When we do good things, we need to own it and brag about it. Not argue against it and diminish our own achievements.

the 50's, 60's, 70's and mid 80's. There was more of an equal balance in how much things cost and how much you made. Companies actually thought that employees were worth something and tried to keep them. And the reason that Republicans thought Reagan was great was because we were still in a good time in our economy and their taxes got cut. They didn't see the slide, but the poor did. The poor have been invisible for a very long time. Some saw some relief in that they were buying and selling in garage sales, that's what my mother did. And some saw some relief when they saw that they could sell online on Ebay, when that first started up. And, in fact, many are still trying to do that with Ebay.

Again, Clinton was lucky, as was Reagan. Neither really did much to help the American people. They had the help of a slow moving economy and a public that doesn't remember recent history.

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