Not surprised.

"Experts familiar with the Democratic voter data base say that the Sanders campaign would have gleaned valuable information"

This entire sotry is based on the opinion of unidentified sources who may or may not have any actual firsthand knowledge. May or may not be on Hillary's staff, or because of past connections are hoping for a place in the Clinton administration...

Yep, convinces me.

I HEARD THE NPR (BETTER KNOWN AS AMERICAN PRAVDA) on the way to work this morning... Scott Horsley is their Top guy when they have to spew the worst. This morning was very sophisticated piece TRASHING Bernie! Same as MSNBC All FUCKING SHILLS! Same video with different narration from one show to the next. These shows have got to be CHEAP to produce as they splet the cost of coverage/labor by 3-4 times!

GO BERNIE! THAT FULL INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION OF NGP/VAN SERVERS AND EMAILS FROM DAY ONE, NEEDS TO GET UNDERWAY NOW.

The fun begins....

to promote excellence in journalism, by a newspaper owner who decided that was more important than leaving his wealth to great-grandchildren he would never know.

That has been shown on numerous issues.

with screenshots of the database logs.

You can't.

...as our staff members accessed and were snooping around in Clinton files."

That would be some pretty weird database design.

Denying that is ludicrous.

Thief: I didn't go out and take the money! It just came into my pocket as a result of a security flaw!

Its more like someone putting money in your car, then being mad when you don't give it back.

It is like the parking security officer putting their credit card in your car, taking it back, then the company that contracted the parking security company accusing a mouse living in the glove box of seeing and recording the card numbers, then demanding that the mouse reveal that it has possession of the card numbers so the numbers can be "properly dealt with," and in response of said mouse not being able to do this, impounding the car.

Sanders communications director Michael Briggs:

"Clearly, while that information was made available to our campaign because of the incompetence of the vendor, it should not have been looked at. Period"

There is no admission that anything was stolen...it "was made available."

You are quibbling and prevaricating about a. clearly unethical and unforced action on the part of sander's team.

Sander's appolgized, hillary accepted the appolgy, that should have, and could have been the end of it. Let's leave it at that, and move onto more important issues , ok?

Apology accepted.

.... da Nile. And that ain't a river in Egypt .

But that doesn't make what I said a less accurate.

You are quibbling and prevaricating about a clearly unethical and unforced action on the part of sander's team.

Sander's appolgized, hillary accepted the appolgy, that should have, and could have been the end of it. Let's leave it at that, and move onto more important issues , ok?

This is all so ridiculous. The campaign has admitted wrong doing and has even fired staff over this.

These sad attempts at obfuscating and minimizing do nothing but make Sanders supporters seem unable to deal with reality.

They logged into their system, and clinton's data was there. If google accidentally routed someones mail to my account and I read it, would that make me a criminal? Its the exact same thing.

Why is this hard for you to understand?

The company fucked up, people got nosy and they got fired. The company's habitual fuck up is the bigger issue.

No one from the company has gotten fired (as far as I know). Those were mistakes that were made.

People from Sanders campaign have been fired and suspended. Those actions were deliberately done. They were not mistakes.

People did something they shouldn't have, they got fired, as they should have, Bernie's campaign dealt with it swiftly.

Deliberately or not, the company made a much bigger error, and did it multiple times. The question at hand should be, why are they allowed to get away with it, and why is the DNC so slow to react to this incompetence? They were pretty damn quick when they thought they could score a few political points.

company, on Hillary, on the man in the moon, on the winter solstice, on EVERYBODY but the people who did this. Which would be the Sanders campaign.

So comments like this: The question at hand should be, why are they allowed to get away with it, and why is the DNC so slow to react to this incompetence? They were pretty damn quick when they thought they could score a few political points. are the reason this story will not go away. That and the bewildering lawsuit that the Sanders campaign refuse to drop.

Even some in the actual Sanders campaign are tying to downplay their role in this or, incredibly, are trying desperately to allude that Hillary's campaign may have tapped into their own data which is a scandalous and irresponsible charge to make without any proof. The company messed up but the Sanders campaign is to blame for this fiasco. Not Hillary.

And even if one disagrees with the response from the DNC (which alot of people do) that still doesn't change IN THE LEAST the party who was in the wrong or the wronged party.

I'm not saying what the people who were fired did wasn't wrong, but there were provisions in the campaigns contracts to deal with issues like that specifically, and the people were already dealt with...but the larger issue remains.

This company was incompetent and let data fall into a competitors hand, not once, but at least 3 separate times, and this not only hasn't been addressed, but you seem to think it is unimportant. It demands a full investigation.

Placing the blame solely on the people who viewed the data ignores the bigger issue.

And I'm not trying to alleviate any of that, but they've been fired. That story is closed. That you think firing them goes farther than actually fixing the underlying issue is what is very telling. The exploit is out there, people know about it, and after causing at least 3 data breaches, the same company is in charge of it. How can you not see what a big problem that is? Next time a campaign wants to grab data, they'll know to be a bit more careful...all this does is embolden the next person who wants to grab some data.

Why would you think I'm looking out for the company? I've said they're incompetent, and I want them removed, and I want a full security audit. That is the only rational thing to do at this point. Sticking your head in the sand just enables both the incompetence of the company and others who may want to look at unauthorized data.

If the DOD found out the company that runs their network security allowed Russia to steal US secrets, not once, but several times, even after being told about it, would they just sit there and wag their finger at the Russians for taking it, or would they take action to ensure that the company who made the mistake was held accountable and the security flaw was fixed?

Which, if you'll recall, is EXACTLY why I've said that this issue won't die. Because Sanders supporters want to put the blame everywhere but on the people that deserve it. You want to put 90% of the blame on the company, 10% on Sanders campaign staff. Most reasonable people would have that reversed.

So you just keep typing away. Saying the same thing. Making my point for me over and over and over again. I'll be over here struggling to stay awake.

the fray of the political world. This act proves he and his campaign are not.
Never place yourself on a pedestal. The slightest move can cause damage.

that believe in a fair process and support the people's interest over party intrapolitics or corporate money.

rightfully accusing Sanders campaign staffers for taking advantage of that glitch and trying to take proprietary data from their chief rival. There's no excusing that, Warren. If Hillary Clinton staffers had done the same thing, you'd be one of the first DUers here condemning them - and justifiably so.

What those campaign staffers should've done the moment they discovered there was a glitch was to notify the proper departments. They didn't. They chose to access the Clinton campaign files and data and keep quiet about it. Like I said, there's no excusing it.

permission to enter-which they did and one was fired and 2 under suspension.

to break in. But once they saw the opportunity, they took it. And they spent two hours delving through data they had no business reviewing.

who has been identified as a VAN architect.

And when someone is caught with their hand in the cookie jar, and keeps yelling "look over there", you know there is a lot more. Their aggressive deflection really tells more is to come. Never seen Sanders promote such squirminess. Not who he normally is.

Sucks, but it is what it is.

First, the NGP VAN Blog said people lists were *not* obtained.

2nd, this is NGP & Clinton's DNC gross negligence for allowing the data to be accessed. By the way, it is hard to believe that this was an accident. I suspect that NGP/DNC knew exactly what they were doing.

3rd, this is a form of entrapment.

Finally, as I said, when Clinton loses, the poor Clinton supporters can blame it on this data breach (which did not result in any people lists) that Clinton's DNC perpetrated.

Cheers!

NOTHING, NADA evidence that points to your conjured up idea.

what this "log" that keeps showing up is from? It looks like no computer "log" I've ever seen what it looks like is someone typed information into a spreadsheet. I'm not saying it isn't accurate, but I think it is a human recreation not something generated by a computer system.

Weaver-fever has been strong in many, unfortunately. He poisoned the well in an attempt to dazzle camouflage what he knew all too well what happened.

This whole episode has tainted Bernie's once sterling reputation. Instead of owning it he decided to play the dirty politics he so often derides. Bernie decided to play the victim and sue the democratic party in an attempt to manipulate his own scandal. He is insinuating it's a democratic party conspiracy to garner support and raise campaign money. I guess he is no different than the rest of the politicians.

This should have been a Pinocchio nose. A large one.

has reached epic levels. Epically hilarious.

Please continue. Since you're apparently laboring under the belief that changing the topic and attempting to deflect to someone else's sins will somehow remove the spotlight on the sins being done in your guy's name. You know, the "outsider" who's supposed to be above all of this.

puts you in the precarious position of coming off as something of a hypocrite.

for the sole purpose of trying to change the subject and divert the spotlight away from your guy's screw ups and you're worried about ME looking like a hypocrite!??!

And clutching "pearls" is a VAST improvement over what you're clawing and grasping at in order to try and downplay this.

about the Clinton campaign!

it to be the case but the Sander's campaign DID NOT GO OUT and TAKE the data. It was not usable copyable or exportable. Tough nuts if this fails to meet your criteria for a sufficient defense. The acts by a campaign staffer cannot be pinned on the candidate. Nice try. Now back to HRH's support of and from dirty banksters...ahem.

I think these "Experts familiar with the Democratic voter data base" are full of shit.



http://blog.ngpvan.com/data-security-and-privacy

^snip^



Per NGP Van:

On Wednesday morning, there was a release of VAN code. Unfortunately, it contained a bug. For a brief window, the voter data that is always searchable across campaigns in VoteBuilder included client scores it should not have, on a specific part of the VAN system. So for voters that a user already had access to, that user was able to search by and view (but not export or save or act on) some attributes that came from another campaign.


The breach was brief:

Again, this bug was a brief isolated issue, and we are not aware of any previous reports of such data being inappropriately available. We look forward to supporting all our Democratic clients, and in particular apologize to the DNC, Clinton and Sanders campaigns for our bug Wednesday.


What information was exported?

First, a one page-style report containing summary data on a list was saved out of VoteBuilder by one Sanders user. This is what some people have referred to as the “export” from VoteBuilder. As noted below, users were unable to export lists of people.

... the vendors themselves said they didn't TAKE anything. And Politifact has been mistaken more than once. It's all going to come out in the court case, so let's just wait 'til then, what do you say?

Bernie is a liar.

We know HilLIARy has people who worked on her campaign involved in this. This ain't going to end well.

Nothing more than a claim in a lawsuit that there was a similar vulnerability in the database in October, and so someone could possibly have breached it then.

And then provide the evidence.

TIA!

I thought we're all supposed to be friends in arms here.

... you lied.

When did it become 2 hours?

the activists on the far left are over zealous. This is why Joshie took Hillary information.

They need to unplug their ears.

Now they're going after the fact checkers.

Who hasn't been thrown under the bus yet?

LOL.

LOL