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Alfresco

(1,698 posts)
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 08:46 AM Dec 2015

Clinton : We need more kindness in our country

During a recent rally in Iowa, presidential candidate Hillary Clinton was confronted with a question from a young girl who told her that she was subject to bullying in school because of her asthma.

Clinton wouldn't stand for that.

"You are looking at somebody who's had a lot of terrible things said about me," Clinton told her. "I am well aware of the fact that it's really easy to do that. And you just say it and you send it around the world. And luckily, I'm old enough that it doesn't particularly bother me, but I can't even imagine what it's like to be a young person in today's world, where that's coming at you all the time. So I do think we all have to speak up and speak out about trying to create an atmosphere where bullying is not appropriate. Where it's not allowed. Where people don't buy into it."

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Clinton : We need more kindness in our country (Original Post) Alfresco Dec 2015 OP
Please NO CARTOONS !!!!! orpupilofnature57 Dec 2015 #1
... Alfresco Dec 2015 #6
Then don't advocate for, and vote for, unnecessary wars based on a pack of lies! Scuba Dec 2015 #2
How many people do you think Lockheed Martin have Killed? stonecutter357 Dec 2015 #19
Come on... This one issue is all you have? tecelote Dec 2015 #22
Should victims of gun violence be able to sue gun manufacturers? stonecutter357 Dec 2015 #23
Do you agree with everything Hillary has voted for? tecelote Dec 2015 #25
Now you see it. stonecutter357 Dec 2015 #29
Yes. Bernie is still far and beyond the best choice. tecelote Dec 2015 #32
I see it. tazkcmo Dec 2015 #33
Yes. tecelote Dec 2015 #35
do you know https://twitter.com/VeteransforHill stonecutter357 Dec 2015 #38
I'm aware of it. tazkcmo Dec 2015 #44
Do you know... tecelote Dec 2015 #46
can i ask what year were you drafted? stonecutter357 Dec 2015 #49
Lovely. Military purity tests to have an opinion on foreign policy on DU. JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #91
Is there a qualification to be a veteran to access that page? Probably not. George II Dec 2015 #100
Should victims of drunk drivers be able to sue GM or Toyota? n/t A Simple Game Dec 2015 #75
You should ask Hillary about that being that she profited from the sale of guns while being Snotcicles Dec 2015 #95
Please tell me how a vote for.... NCTraveler Dec 2015 #24
It's clear that Hillary is a Hawk and Bernie wants Peace. tecelote Dec 2015 #28
Sanders has voted more temes than Hillary for military action, seems like he wants war more Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #51
Any links to show Sanders voted ore times for war? tecelote Dec 2015 #57
All of Sanders votes are recorded, leaving out part of his history does not erase his Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #62
I didn't say I hold Hillary responsible for the Iraq invasion. tecelote Dec 2015 #65
Sandees has also backed regime change. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #88
Links? tecelote Dec 2015 #112
He voted for ILA, she told him in the debate Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #116
PLease tell me why you struggle so stupidicus Dec 2015 #69
Tu Quoque argument equals FAIL!! Scuba Dec 2015 #36
nothing says quoque like a shot up high school. stonecutter357 Dec 2015 #43
Except one that has been bombed! Scuba Dec 2015 #52
bombed by a f22? stonecutter357 Dec 2015 #53
Bombed in an illegal, immoral war, based on lies, backed by Hillary. Scuba Dec 2015 #58
Well, in all fairness, the F22 hasn't killed anyone that I know of. Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #64
Yep, the neocons love Hillary CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #87
Among SOS Clinton's foreign policy advisors were Kagan and Kissinger. Enough said. Scuba Dec 2015 #99
That fact alone, should disqualify her from the Democratic nomination CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #102
I used to work for Lockheed Martin The Golden One Dec 2015 #92
+1! tecelote Dec 2015 #34
9 minutes baldguy Dec 2015 #39
Her hypocrisy reeks. Scuba Dec 2015 #40
Who the hell are you to talk about hypocrisy? baldguy Dec 2015 #71
I've never sided with bullies, haters or the unkind. Perhaps you're thinking of Hillary. Scuba Dec 2015 #73
You're siding with the bullies RIGHT NOW! baldguy Dec 2015 #77
Blind obedience is not an endearing quality. Scuba Dec 2015 #78
The issue isn't blind obedience so much as it is willfull blindness. baldguy Dec 2015 #79
I didn't attack her for showing compassion. I called out her hypocrisy. Scuba Dec 2015 #81
Saying she's "tone deaf" for showing compassion isn't an attack? baldguy Dec 2015 #82
+ 1000 orpupilofnature57 Dec 2015 #98
This is a totally different issue treestar Dec 2015 #109
Millions of us knew it was a pack of lies. The idea that Hillary didn't is laughable. Scuba Dec 2015 #113
I agree the 1% dont get nearly enough love Katashi_itto Dec 2015 #3
They're greedy, there's never enough of anything to satisfy them. Never. nt nc4bo Dec 2015 #14
Blasphemy! You must be sacrificed upon the altar of Capitalism! The good of the few Katashi_itto Dec 2015 #26
total lack of introspection going on Proserpina Dec 2015 #4
Not even tazkcmo Dec 2015 #31
The War Hawk Speaketh cantbeserious Dec 2015 #5
Alfresco, you are a beacon of light in a sea of darkness. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #7
I am humbled by your comments, thank you. Alfresco Dec 2015 #8
You make me want to become a better, kinder, and gentler poster./nt DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #9
This was a beatiful moment in our politices and it is shameful that the OP is being trashed. riversedge Dec 2015 #10
We must be like Secretary Clinton and rise above the cacophony of hate and discord. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #12
"I'd rather ablamj Dec 2015 #15
"him who loves us"? Helen Borg Dec 2015 #18
Suddenly... Helen Borg Dec 2015 #74
All you need is love DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #85
Yup, Trump loves you too. Helen Borg Dec 2015 #93
Could you please elaborate on your contention that Donald Trump loves me? DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #94
No, not you, personally. "You" all. Helen Borg Dec 2015 #97
I will try. Thanks. riversedge Dec 2015 #115
Democrats do not have to hate, the GOP has that covered. We don't have to Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #11
Let all of us Clinton supporters send out a ripple of hope this new year. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #13
Ripples to Waves Alfresco Dec 2015 #17
And a Wave to tsunami to crush any that oppose Hillary! Katashi_itto Dec 2015 #30
A tsunami of kindness, caring, generosity, cooperation, tolerance and unity. Alfresco Dec 2015 #37
If people can be taught to hate they can be taught to love. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #41
Who are you talking about? Katashi_itto Dec 2015 #50
I would hope everyone could embrace those virtues. Alfresco Dec 2015 #55
I join you in hoping everyone could embrace those virtues. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #60
Np, as long as you not thinking thats a description of Katashi_itto Dec 2015 #66
Okay--that made me throw up a bit. panader0 Dec 2015 #103
Nicely said. Thank you riversedge Dec 2015 #114
No kidding! Helen Borg Dec 2015 #16
Truly - Verdaderamente Alfresco Dec 2015 #21
God loves us all./nt DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #42
truth. Hiraeth Dec 2015 #20
What the world needs now is love... DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #45
What a hypocrite. tazkcmo Dec 2015 #27
Thank you for the positive post-Christmas message. BlueCheese Dec 2015 #47
Then the kindest thing Hillary can do for all Americans and the rest of the world, is to Dustlawyer Dec 2015 #48
Maybe in another life, but today in this life we need a strong leader who has lots of foreign Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #54
Wouldn't that be nice. Her ego won't allow that. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2015 #70
blah blah blah... the only person hillary cares about is queen hillary bowens43 Dec 2015 #56
A great message ... quickly soiled by DU's perpetually disgruntled. JoePhilly Dec 2015 #59
Some Sanders supporters have gone full-on hateful. Metric System Dec 2015 #61
The best antidote to love is hate. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #68
Kindness begins with me. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #63
Seriously? SammyWinstonJack Dec 2015 #67
"So I do think we all have to speak up and speak out about trying to create an atmosphere..." DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #72
Monica Lewinsky spoke up about bullying before Hill. Divernan Dec 2015 #104
"Where it's not allowed." SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #76
Hillary voted for Clu$ter Bomb$ - but those maimed/murdered kids weren't white Americans. Divernan Dec 2015 #80
We are just "Ordinary People". Alfresco Dec 2015 #83
Stand ! DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #89
Its hard to hug a cluster bomb. bahrbearian Dec 2015 #84
George Harrison-Give Me Love (Give Me Peace On Earth) DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #86
Who do you think George Harrison would endorse? C'mon--one guess--c'mon. panader0 Dec 2015 #105
Thanks for giving me an opportunity to kick this thread and post another song about love DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #107
The kindest thing for Clinton to do for America The Golden One Dec 2015 #90
^^^ This ^^^ cantbeserious Dec 2015 #101
That's why I'm voting for Bernie Sanders. azmom Dec 2015 #96
Well that is rich me b zola Dec 2015 #106
Where is the love? DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2015 #110
The love is with the working class people of this nation me b zola Dec 2015 #111
comments her DU cohort apparently reject as unworkable. Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #108
 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
2. Then don't advocate for, and vote for, unnecessary wars based on a pack of lies!
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 08:55 AM
Dec 2015

Jeezus H. Kriste that woman is tone deaf.

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
22. Come on... This one issue is all you have?
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 10:25 AM
Dec 2015

Clinton wants regime change. End of story.

Clinton will keep us at war. Bernie will not.

Vote your conscience. Hundreds of thousands of lives depend upon it.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
33. I see it.
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 10:39 AM
Dec 2015

And it's pretty disheartening as a veteran to see other Americans support her excessive use of military force. This is why we need to reinstate the draft. Maybe it'll cool off the war hawks when their relatives are on the line.

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
35. Yes.
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 10:43 AM
Dec 2015

Plus war taxes...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excess_profits_tax

Excess profits tax

In the United States, an excess profits tax is a tax, some say excise tax, on any profit above a certain amount. A predominantly wartime fiscal instrument, the tax was designed primarily to capture wartime profits that exceeded normal peacetime profits to prevent perverse incentives for manufacturers to engage in war profiteering and warmongering.

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Snip...
The Korean War induced Congress to reimpose an excess profits tax, effective from 1 July 1950 to 31 December 1953. The tax rate was 30 percent of excess profits with the top corporate tax rate rising from 45% to 47%, a 70 percent ceiling for the combined corporation and excess profits taxes.

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Take the profit out of our wars and they will end tomorrow.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
44. I'm aware of it.
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 10:52 AM
Dec 2015

What's your point? When I was in the Army my fellow soldiers voted Republican even though under a Republican President and Darth Cheney as DoD Sec failed to pay us on more than one occasion. Americans vote against their own self interest all the time and veterans are no different.

 

Snotcicles

(9,089 posts)
95. You should ask Hillary about that being that she profited from the sale of guns while being
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 02:06 PM
Dec 2015

on the BOD and being a shareholder of this country's largest gun retailer.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
24. Please tell me how a vote for....
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 10:28 AM
Dec 2015

The Iraq Liberation Act wasn't a vote for regime change just years before the Iraq War. Any honest person will tell you it was a huge part of getting eighty percent of this country on board with the war.

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
28. It's clear that Hillary is a Hawk and Bernie wants Peace.
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 10:35 AM
Dec 2015

"Let us wage a moral and political war against war itself, so that we can cut military spending and use that money for human needs." ~ Sen. Bernie Sanders. "



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Ask Hillary to stop pushing for regime change and focus on Peace. Or, just don't support the war mongers among us.

It's time morals and ethics mattered in this country.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
51. Sanders has voted more temes than Hillary for military action, seems like he wants war more
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 11:00 AM
Dec 2015

times than Hillary. His votes on gun issues are to continue gun violence in the US which kills more than Americans in Iraq. He voted to expand into Afghanistan and it continues today.

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
57. Any links to show Sanders voted ore times for war?
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 11:05 AM
Dec 2015

These would need to be only while Hillary was in the Senate.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
62. All of Sanders votes are recorded, leaving out part of his history does not erase his
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 11:11 AM
Dec 2015

votes on military action. Likewise if you want to excuse Sanders record in a certain years then we will also exclude the vote on IWR, now that would be fair. I would also think if you have looked at Sanders record you already know when he has voted for military action, you see, I know Hillary voted for the IWR.

If you are going to hold Hillary responsible for the Iraq invasion when you know it was Bush's decision you are allowing the republicans to avoid any responsibility of their actions.

Once more, if you are going to hold Hillary responsible for the Iraq war the we will hold Sanders responsible for all of the gun violence in the US, it would be fair.

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
65. I didn't say I hold Hillary responsible for the Iraq invasion.
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 11:16 AM
Dec 2015

During the debates Hillary said we couldn't afford Bernie's proposals while during the same debate she supports regime change.

Priorities are clear.

I'll vote for Bernie and save thousands of lives and improve millions.

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
69. PLease tell me why you struggle so
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 11:23 AM
Dec 2015

with the diff between an invasion and occupation, and this?

SEC. 8. RULE OF CONSTRUCTION.

Nothing in this Act shall be construed to authorize or otherwise speak to the use of United States Armed Forces (except as provided in section 4(a)(2)) in carrying out this Act.

I doubt there's a BS supporter here that can't figure that one out, no?

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
58. Bombed in an illegal, immoral war, based on lies, backed by Hillary.
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 11:05 AM
Dec 2015

Not the "kindness" I want for our fellow human beings.

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
64. Well, in all fairness, the F22 hasn't killed anyone that I know of.
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 11:13 AM
Dec 2015

It can't even get off the ground.

However, Hillary has voted, and encouraged others to vote with her, to kill on a vast scale in multiple regions. A record she is quite proud of in fact.

No thanks, Hillary is a war hawk, plain and simple. A few billions wasted on a plane that has yet to work doesn't even begin to compare.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
87. Yep, the neocons love Hillary
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 01:29 PM
Dec 2015

...and I can't imagine any neocon advocating for Sanders.

We all know who the real warmonger is. She's been consistent for decades.

Robert Kagan, the granddaddy of the neocon movement says that he has no problem with Hillary's foreign policy.

He should know. Hillary selected him as one of her foreign-policy advisors while she was SOS. Disgusting.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
102. That fact alone, should disqualify her from the Democratic nomination
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 04:11 PM
Dec 2015

I have yet to see one of her fans attempt to explain away the fact that neocon criminal Kagan was one of her foreign-policy advisers.

When you can pick anyone, and you select one of the neocon kingpins, that tells us all we need to know.

 

The Golden One

(46 posts)
92. I used to work for Lockheed Martin
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 01:51 PM
Dec 2015

Does that make me a killer?

No. I hated the company, but the company wanted my skills, and was willing to pay well. So they did. I left of my own volition two years later, and started my own boutique business that is doing well.

But I will always be grateful to Lockheed because they provided additional training for me to use my skills. They paid for it, sent me to different cities for training, and never had any issues.

Mainly, my facilities at Waterton Canyon was building rocket equipment and some of the Mars rover stuff you see today. Even got to see it built from scratch which was cool.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
39. 9 minutes
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 10:47 AM
Dec 2015

That's all it took for you to find a way to complain about an unabashedly positive message that no rational person could disagree with.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
71. Who the hell are you to talk about hypocrisy?
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 11:32 AM
Dec 2015

Given a choice between bullies and the bullied, you side with the bullies.
Between the haters and the hated, you side with the haters.
Between the kind and the unkind, you side with those who are unkind.

Donald Trump thinks the girl's question was staged. Do you?

Whose side do you think Bernie Sanders is on?

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
73. I've never sided with bullies, haters or the unkind. Perhaps you're thinking of Hillary.
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 11:38 AM
Dec 2015

She claims to want more kindness but supported an illegal, immoral war.

She claims to want more kindness but took money from the private prison industry and advocated for locking more people behind bars.

She claims to want more kindness but takes money from banksters who stole people's homes through fraud.

She claims to want more kindness but supports destroying our water by fracking.

She claims to want more kindness but supports the fucking death penalty!!!

She claims to want more kindness but support torturing people!!!

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
77. You're siding with the bullies RIGHT NOW!
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 11:48 AM
Dec 2015

You're so filled with bile & hate that you can't even see straight.

If Bernie had stood on that stage with Hillary and Hannah, what do you think he'd do? Would he have twisted himself into a pretzel trying to find a way to stomach-punch Hillary & kick her in the head? Or would have joined with her & agreed with her sediment and compassion for Hannah?

I think he would surely do the latter, while you can't move past the former.

And Donald Trump would look upon you and smile.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
79. The issue isn't blind obedience so much as it is willfull blindness.
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 11:54 AM
Dec 2015

Your hatred of all things Hillary is so complete that you feel you must attack her for everything she does. Even when she's showing her compassion for a young girl.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
82. Saying she's "tone deaf" for showing compassion isn't an attack?
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 12:29 PM
Dec 2015

Donald Trump is now on his feet applauding you.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
109. This is a totally different issue
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 05:34 PM
Dec 2015

You only highlight that the Senators did not know it was a pack of lies at the time.

Bullying by individuals in schools is a completely different issue. You have to be tone deaf to go directly to the Iraq War. The nation thought it was defending itself, too, mistaken though that may be. We were not "bullying" them because they were weaker.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
113. Millions of us knew it was a pack of lies. The idea that Hillary didn't is laughable.
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 07:21 PM
Dec 2015

And if she didn't, she's too fucking stupid to be a Senator, President or dogcatcher.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
26. Blasphemy! You must be sacrificed upon the altar of Capitalism! The good of the few
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 10:30 AM
Dec 2015

outweigh the needs of the many!

Vote Status Quo!
Vote Hillary! -Or Else!

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
7. Alfresco, you are a beacon of light in a sea of darkness.
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 09:34 AM
Dec 2015

It is the contribution of posters like you that keep me returning to this site.


I love you. All good people love you. You serve a higher purpose.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
12. We must be like Secretary Clinton and rise above the cacophony of hate and discord.
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 09:45 AM
Dec 2015

Let us use this opportunity to love one another.





DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
94. Could you please elaborate on your contention that Donald Trump loves me?
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 01:59 PM
Dec 2015
" Yup, Trump loves you too...'

-Helen Borg





Could you please elaborate on your contention that Donald Trump loves me?


Thank you in advance.

Happy Holidays
DSB

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
97. No, not you, personally. "You" all.
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 02:26 PM
Dec 2015

He said it. Everybody loves him, he loves everybody. These words mean nothing when politicians utter them!

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
11. Democrats do not have to hate, the GOP has that covered. We don't have to
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 09:43 AM
Dec 2015

Say and do hateful things to others and about others, the GOP has that covered. Thanks for the post.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
30. And a Wave to tsunami to crush any that oppose Hillary!
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 10:35 AM
Dec 2015


All Praise the 1%. Down with the anti Capitalists!

panader0

(25,816 posts)
103. Okay--that made me throw up a bit.
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 04:55 PM
Dec 2015

Unless you were talking about Wall Street...then it would be accurate about HRC.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
27. What a hypocrite.
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 10:35 AM
Dec 2015

"As soon as I've sent your Mom or dad, or both, brother or sister, or both, neighbor or cousin, or both, to topple the Dictator De Jour, I'll give you a hug. See? Doesn't that feel good? Now be a good little prole and chain yourself back to that work bench."

BlueCheese

(2,522 posts)
47. Thank you for the positive post-Christmas message.
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 10:55 AM
Dec 2015

As for the replies, well, not so much.

I understand it might be cathartic for the people who post this venom, but I wonder if they think they're helping their candidate.

Dustlawyer

(10,497 posts)
48. Then the kindest thing Hillary can do for all Americans and the rest of the world, is to
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 10:56 AM
Dec 2015

withdraw from the race and endorse Bernie!

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
54. Maybe in another life, but today in this life we need a strong leader who has lots of foreign
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 11:04 AM
Dec 2015

experience, Sanders is lacking in the foreign experience.

 

bowens43

(16,064 posts)
56. blah blah blah... the only person hillary cares about is queen hillary
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 11:05 AM
Dec 2015

the woman does not have a sincere bone in her body. It makes me laugh to see people make posts like this as if it means anything or trlls us anything about the this woman.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
72. "So I do think we all have to speak up and speak out about trying to create an atmosphere..."
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 11:37 AM
Dec 2015

"So I do think we all have to speak up and speak out about trying to create an atmosphere where bullying is not appropriate. "


-Hillary Clinton





Divernan

(15,480 posts)
104. Monica Lewinsky spoke up about bullying before Hill.
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 04:57 PM
Dec 2015

In October 2014 she took a public stand against cyberbullying, calling herself "patient zero" of online harassment.[59] Speaking at a Forbes magazine "30 Under 30" Summit about her experiences in the aftermath of the scandal, she said, "Having survived myself, what I want to do now is help other victims of the shame game survive, too."[59][60] She said she was influenced by reading about the suicide of Tyler Clementi, a Rutgers University freshman where cyberbullying was involved[59] and joined Twitter to facilitate her efforts.[60][61]In March 2015, Lewinsky continued to speak out publicly against cyberbullying,[62] delivering a TED talk calling for a more compassionate Internet.[63][64] In June 2015, she became an ambassador and strategic advisor for anti-bullying organization Bystander Revolution.[65] The same month, she gave an anti-cyberbullying speech at the Cannes Lions International Festival of Creativity.[6
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Lewinsky

So if this is the new kind Hillary, will she apologize for calling Monica Lewinsky a narcissistic looneytoon?

Blair wrote in her diary that Hillary Clinton called Monica Lewinsky, the White House intern who nearly brought down her husband's presidency, a "narcissistic loony toon." Hillary Clinton defended her husband's adultery by saying it was caused, partly, because "the ugly forces started making up hateful things about them, pounding on them."

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
76. "Where it's not allowed."
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 11:46 AM
Dec 2015

Exactly.

I understand it's not possible for an adult to be standing right there for every single interaction, but adults who shrug and say "kids will be kids" (and there still are some) drive me nuts. It's not acceptable behavior. Period.

Oops, here I am accidentally posting in GD: P again. Oh well. That does shed light on some reactions.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
80. Hillary voted for Clu$ter Bomb$ - but those maimed/murdered kids weren't white Americans.
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 12:12 PM
Dec 2015

And more importantly, their parents, grandparents, aunts & uncles can't be solicited for campaign contributions or votes.

Cluster bomblets are packed by the hundreds into artillery shells, bombs or missiles which scatter them over vast areas, with some failing to explode immediately. The unexploded bomblets can then lie dormant for years after conflicts end until they are disturbed, often by civilians.

Children can be attracted to the unexploded bombs by their small size, shape and bright colors, activists say.

As many as 60 percent of the victims in Southeast Asia are children, the Cluster Munition Coalition campaign group said. The weapons have recently been used in Iraq, Kosovo, Afghanistan and Lebanon, it said.

The U.N. estimated that Israel dropped as many as 4 million bomblets in southern Lebanon during last year's war with Hezbollah, with as many 40 percent failing to explode on impact. According to the Red Cross, dormant bombs in southern Lebanon have caused more than 200 deaths and injuries since the end of Israel's attacks in August 2006.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/nations-call-for-ban-of-cluster-bombs/

In her autobiography, Living History, Senator Hillary Clinton portrays herself as an advocate for children, a defender of women and human rights. In fact, the Clintons have a long history of sacrificing the rights, even the lives of children, for political expediency. It is time to set the record straight.

On September 6, 2006, a Senate bill—a simple amendment to ban the use of cluster bombs in civilian areas—presented Senator Clinton with a timely opportunity to protect the lives of children throughout the world.

The cluster bomb is one of the most hated and heinous weapons in modern war, and its primary victims are children. Senator Obama voted for the amendment to ban cluster bombs. Senator Clinton, however, voted with the Republicans to kill the humanitarian bill, an amendment in accord with the Geneva Conventions, which already prohibit the use of indiscriminate weapons in populated areas.

All senators are expected to inform themselves on the issues before they cast a vote. The evidence is overwhelming. It is hard to believe that Senator Clinton was unaware of the humanitarian crisis when she voted to continue the use of cluster bombs in cities and populated areas. A U.N. weapons commission called cluster bombs “weapons of indiscriminate effect.” For years the international press reported the horrific consequences of cluster bombs on civilians. On April 10, 2003, for example, Asia Times described the carnage in Baghdad hospitals: “The absolute majority of patients are women and children, victims of shrapnel, and most of all, fragments of cluster bombs.” Reporting from a hospital in Hillah, The Mirror, a British newspaper, became graphic: “Shrapnel peppered their bodies. Blackened the skin. Smashed heads. Tore limbs. A doctor reports that ‘all the injuries you see were caused by cluster bombs. The majority of the victims were children who died because they were outside.’”

Even after wars subside, after treaties are signed, after belligerents return home, cluster bombs wreak havoc on civilian life., only to become landmines that later explode on playgrounds and farmlands. Children are drawn to cluster bomb canisters, the deadly duds that look like beer cans or toys before they explode.


http://www.berkeleydailyplanet.com/issue/2008-03-18/article/29503

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
106. Well that is rich
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 05:22 PM
Dec 2015

I mean that I don't even know what to say to that. Really? That is fucked up and bullshit/
.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
110. Where is the love?
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 05:36 PM
Dec 2015
I mean that I don't even know what to say to that. Really? That is fucked up and bullshit.

-me b zola



Where is the love?

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
111. The love is with the working class people of this nation
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 06:00 PM
Dec 2015

For all of the underrepresented. For those unspoken for. For those of us marginalized. This is where the love is.

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