2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSo here's what really happened.
Josh Uretsky was working for Hillary the whole time. He, DWS, and some collaborators at NGP VAN had set the system up so that he could access both campaigns' data, which he would do regularly in order to transfer Bernie's data over to the Hillary team.
What broke on that fateful day was not the firewall, but the hack that they had put in in order to keep all of Uretsky's activities out of the logs, in case of an audit. So for a few hours, Uretsky's accessing both sets of data made it into the logs, and some employees at NGP VAN noticed this.
DWS was notified, and which point she decided that the best defense is a good offense. Uretsky would take the fall, and she would try to paint Bernie as a data thief.
Meanwhile, over at Clinton HQ, panic is everywhere. Hillary didn't let her top advisors know the details of the plot, but they all know that something was crooked, and an investigation was out of the question. One of her aides took it upon himself to start planting stories in the media designed to make Bernie's campaign look bad.
The "Uretsky is a plant" story is part of this disinformation campaign. Problem is, the story was actually true, even though the Clinton aide who planted it didn't know that! He though it would make the Bernie campaign look like conspiracy nuts, but he inadvertently leaked the truth.
Needless to say, Clinton is planning on dropping out of the race on Monday. Sources say she was close to throwing in the towel even without this, because after she saw the last few facebook polls, her team knew there was no hope left.
So that's the story. She might have gotten away with it, too, if it wasn't for those meddling internet posters!
ismnotwasm
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Buzz cook
(2,474 posts)I gotta bridge to Brooklyn you might wanna buy.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)It was sarcasm. But given some the stuff I've seen on this topic, I don't blame you for thinking this was an honest post.
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)Let's get that mf'ing INVESTIGATION underway and see wtf was REALLY going on over at HilBill HQ! Emails, phone logs, depos... the whole schlmeal!
gwheezie
(3,580 posts)reACTIONary
(5,771 posts)The mandatory bernie bouncer
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Sancho
(9,070 posts)I think you need CAPS and bold if it's really true!!!
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)BlueCheese
(2,522 posts)And why would anyone sign up for that? How would that conversation even go down? Like this?
Whitaker: Okay Josh, the secret Clinton cabal has an important mission for you to carry out. Are you ready?
Uretsky: Anything for the cause. What should I do?
Whitaker: We want you to work undercover for the Sanders campaign as their data director. Act like everythings normal for months and take no improper actions. Then, in December, well direct the VAN to momentarily drop its firewall, during which time youll access lots of Clinton campaign data and leave a clear trail as you do it.
Uretsky: But wait, if Im undercover for Clinton, why would I need to break into her data?
Whitaker: Because were actually going to use this incident to expose you, our mole in the enemys operation, and get you fired in order to briefly embarrass the Sanders campaign and get their VAN access turned off for like a day or two.
Uretsky: If Im their national data director secretly working for Clinton, couldnt I just screw up their VAN operations myself?
Whitaker: Look, Josh, youre thinking too hard about this. Dont question the plan.
Uretsky: And wouldnt this irreparably destroy my professional reputation for all time?
Whitaker: Dont worry, the Clinton Illuminati will provide for you.
Uretsky: Alright, Im down.
Gman
(24,780 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)campaign over this. This whole thing is so monumentally embarrassing and amateurish.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)campaign said Josh was a plant.
The Sanders's campaign said no such thing. That conspiracy theory originated with the author of the article.
stupidicus
(2,570 posts)this is just another way they are like their rightwing cousins. Whatever happened to those data theft charges?
Long after the lie is exposed it will retain a vestige of truth in their minds because of what their unthinking acceptance of that lie says about them.
Denial 101: It's all about ego preservation
gwheezie
(3,580 posts)In one of the AOL chatrooms about Obama and Hillary and thought for sure anyone with 1/2 a brain would know it was sarcasm and then next thing I know Ron Paul was making the same claim. Go figure.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)Maybe you should try defending Hillary's support for the invasion of Iraq. Then again, making up shit about Sanders is probably more effective.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Loudestlib
(980 posts)catnhatnh
(8,976 posts)laughing boy...
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Sanders is within 5 points in Iowa.
He's drawing 2,000 to his town halls. Clinton struggles to get 200-300 to her campaign town halls.
Your middle-school-like mocking, hubris and condescension have been duly noted.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Obviously you worked very hard on your rofl art project
Good job!
Such straight rows!
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Concepts must rise to an incredibly high degree of hilarity to warrant such a thing.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)...Hillarity?
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Berned out.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)...one hour Martinizing.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)blondie58
(2,570 posts)People didn't like her or Trust her in '08 and it hasn't changed.
She Should take her Multimillions and go Enjoy her granddaughter.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)He was standing right next to her during the debate.
I'll be here all week, folks.
Tip your waitress. Try the pasta.
MeNMyVolt
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(22,457 posts)Gman
(24,780 posts)zappaman
(20,606 posts)Someone had a sad...
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SCantiGOP
(13,873 posts)Cha
(297,621 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)joshcryer
(62,276 posts)...I really do think it was House of Cards level crap, with the staffers seeing an opportunity and hoping to be rewarded for it.
But it turned into an episode of VEEP.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Oh dear, I think you are right! I really just hope whoever is leaking like mad puts a sock in it soon--this really doesn't do any candidate any good.
Cha
(297,621 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)... so naturally, he had to be taken out.
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(297,621 posts)Thank you!