2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumTrump Whines To Fox About Clinton 'Playing The Woman Card'
http://crooksandliars.com/2015/12/trump-whines-fox-about-clinton-playingPoor Donald. That mean old Hillary is picking on him for daring to point out that he's a hate-filled, raging sexist. Most of the Sunday shows gave their viewers a break from Trump this weekend, but you can always count on Fox to be willing to give him some more air time.
From Fox's blog: Trump: 'We All Have to Fight Fairly' in 2016 Race, Hillary 'Playing the Woman's Card' :
Donald Trump phoned into "Fox and Friends Weekend" to comment on being labeled a sexist by Hillary Clinton and redirecting that attack against her husband, who joins her on the campaign trail next month.
Trump took to Twitter Saturday night to slam Clinton by citing her husbands history of marital infidelity and alleged sexual misconduct. He used the same phrase -- "penchant for sexism" -- that was used by Clinton in response to Trump saying she got "schlonged" in her 2008 primary loss to Barack Obama. [...]
Trump said his tweet about the former President was "fair game."
"His presidency was really considered to be very troubled, to put it mildly, because of all of the things that's she talking to me about."
The GOP front-runner said that Hillary has got to be "careful" and that the presidential contest must be waged fairly.
"We all have to fight fairly, and we have to fight for the good of the country, for the good of the people, for the good of everybody," Trump said.
He added that Clinton is "playing the woman's card, and it's like 'Give me a break.'"
Trump said that "women are more upset about it than anybody else."
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potone
(1,701 posts)He seems to be incapable of opening his mouth without insulting someone.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)on anyone and here Hillary is throwing her weight around and picking on Trump.
TheBlackAdder
(28,211 posts).
There are institutional constructs in place that suppress women to a cap of 20% of Federally elected positions.
Any mention of looks, family, etc. either is ignored on men or bolster their ratings, while the same takes 5% away from a woman candidate.
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The politicos know this, and when it is mentioned by a candidate, a candidate's team, the press, etc., it's all done to drive the electability of an opposing woman candidate down. There is no other purpose for it. They should stay on topic, not talking about glasses or the like.
So any mention of looks, clothing, shrill voice, funny laugh, clothing, etc.. all has negative consequences for a woman--even if those statements are made as a 'compliment.'
In politics, these things aren't really relevant. Especially, how certain TV commentors talk about how 'hot' someone is.
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please_read
(11 posts)there's a first time for everything.
MrWendel
(1,881 posts)find it easier to agree and commiserate with "The Donald" than others.
jehop61
(1,735 posts)You belong on a blog called DEMOCRATIC Underground?
please_read
(11 posts)If not, you should do some reading.
Cha
(297,621 posts)please_read
(11 posts)Cha
(297,621 posts)please_read
(11 posts)That is not obvious, given my statement in the first comment.
Or do you always restate another persons comment and try to use it as a sad and pathetic rebuttal?
(Rhetorical question, in case you missed that)
Cha
(297,621 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)There isn't one statement Trump has ever made in this campaign season that he doesn't later clarify, re-word or escalate, but never ever walks back or apologizes for, because in his megalomaniacal mind he simple can't ever be wrong. And his fans will concur.... Or eventually come around to Trumps way of thinking.
ejbr
(5,856 posts)but Trump, as most Repugs when arguing, is talking apples and oranges. For one, Bill's dalliances were not meant to hurt Hillary like Trump's big fucking mouth.
LettuceSea
(337 posts)Frankly I'd think she'd be a much stronger candidate if she did focus on the issues, and didn't play perpetual victim.
If you cry victim over Trump's 8 year old attacks, you're falling right into his trap. Show you're above it.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)not been a part of the Democratic Party platform?
I think you are mixing apples with oranges.
LettuceSea
(337 posts)That's why she needs to be careful on this issue. It's not totally about Bill.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)I do believe it is Trump who brought it out and, low and behold, whose campaig jumps to help smear it around?
May I offer you a mirror?
LettuceSea
(337 posts)Let's take the party glasses off for a second. We are looking at a woman who bullied REAL victims in order to keep the political ship afloat for her husband and herself.
If Bill and HRC were GOPers, all of you guys would be singing a different tune. I get it though, we're supposed to sell our soul for the Democratic Party on this site.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)verse and chapter of Roger Stone's book, which is also Trump's go-to source. A Libertarian corporate lobbyist, which kinda gives you a headache thinking about that mashup. Love how all this sweetness and light and goodness and "issues" from Camp Sanders has turned into the nastiest muckraking churned out by the worst on the right. Amazing.
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)Skidmore
(37,364 posts)SMH. I am finding fewer reasons to trust Sanders with the needs of The People. What I still see is a career politician willing to embrace anyone who will give him publicity, including the racist and sexist followers of Trump.
LettuceSea
(337 posts)Glass houses. Focus on real issues, or the nation will be covered with shattered glass.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)When you pick up the stone from the Trump pile, you are not focusing on "issues."
LettuceSea
(337 posts)Yet for some reason, you guys act like helpless victims when HRC gets some legit heat. The DWS trickle down effect.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)Just embrace that reality TV version of politics. It's chockful of "issues."
MeNMyVolt
(1,095 posts)"Sell our soul"? No, be supportive of the Democratic party, and work towards electing more Democrats. I'm sure you've seen the TOS.
LettuceSea
(337 posts)I'm supportive of people and politicians who care about the little guy. Bernie is a democrat who fits that bill.
I don't blindly support a party if I feel the candidate is shitty. If you want to pull the TOS card and act like a victim (my have we come full circle!), you're just proving my point.
MeNMyVolt
(1,095 posts)That's the way it is in this country. There's no "blindly" about it. You give and take with the people with whom you have the most in common. Skinner had a simple post on this a few months back.
LettuceSea
(337 posts)You guys did this to yourself...both R and D establishment.
Other than pretending to care about social issues to lock up votes of particular demographics, there's not much difference between GOPe and De. Very sad that people can't see that (or do see it, but turn a blind eye for the sake of the party).
MeNMyVolt
(1,095 posts)"You guys"?
The Democratic party is the only reason why we have what you claim to cherish, and the only way to get what you claim you desire.
Feel free to have the last word, but I think I'm pretty much done with our communication.
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)I have been a voting member of the Democratic Party all of my adult life. I feel Hillary is the best candidate . I am not selling my soul. I worked to get Democrats elected on every level every election every year.
MeNMyVolt
(1,095 posts)LettuceSea
(337 posts)I voted for Kerry, Obama twice, and love Joe Biden the most.
After spending a few months volunteering on a campaign, I realized that I'm just a pawn in a big, high stakes game. We all are, unless you're worth 8 figures and donate big bucks. It was very sad to realize that the objective of partisan politics (R or D) is to divide the poor, pander to the base, and energize your side through hate. Why? so the establishment can get their horses to the general.
Hell, the VP was a pawn this summer/fall. Lemme let you in on a secret...the only reason we extended that campaign was to distract the media from HRC's upcoming hearing. He was never going to run, but the establishment played a mourning father (THE SITTING VP!) to serve as a distraction for the Queen. If I had known that, I'd never have volunteered with those scumbags.
That was the tipping point for me...the sitting VP was used, along with his diehard volunteer supporters, to protect a crook with zero political skill. The party chose demographics over character and integrity.
So the way I see it, the establishment fucked me first, yet they still want me to get in line like a good boy. They can fuck off.
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)LettuceSea
(337 posts)Skidmore
(37,364 posts)a nonfunctioning Teabagger Congress for the past 7 years whose stated purpose was to shut everything down that could be viewed as a "win" for the President or the Democratic Party, don't you?
I don't think you know what "establishment" means. It wasn't the establishment who has been screwing people for the past several years. Go ask some of those Trump voters who they were supporting and threatening over that time. Keep enabling them.
safeinOhio
(32,715 posts)the photos of his second mail order bride on the internet. Naked, performing oral sex on another lady. I would never bring this up, except he is the one that says political correctness is bad. Oh boy what a first lady she'd be. Now what's disgusting about Hillary going to the rest room?
MrWendel
(1,881 posts)I'm not surprised with people agreeing with Trump.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)...a man who is on his third wife, is actually criticizing a woman for having a husband who cheated on her.
The sexism runs deep with this moron.
And anyone in this thread who agrees with Trump deserves the same contempt as Trump.
MrWendel
(1,881 posts)hatred of Hillary then agreement with Trump. But If people are willing to overlook who Trump to take down Hillary then good luck with that.
LexVegas
(6,094 posts)oasis
(49,406 posts)gwheezie
(3,580 posts)He was openly cheating on ivana with Marla. Ivana accused him of rape and all his wives have discussed their sex life in tabloids. Trump has proclaimed his current wife to look hot in a thong and he insinuated he'd like to fuck his daughter.
Let's not even go into his current wife's former lover has nude photos of her. And I doubt all the sleaze hasn't come to the surface yet
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)the Sanders supporters who would rush to embrace Trump talking points and the racists and sexists who scream support at his rallies.
elfin
(6,262 posts)Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)he won't cry about?