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Fgiriun

(169 posts)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 08:28 PM Sep 2012

Media is wrongly claiming Embassy’s statement as an apology

They have given in to conservative narrative by falsely implying that the statement was an apology. The statement doesn't in any way apologize, justify, or give ground to the perpetrators of the attacks.


First, the statement does not use the word ‘apology’ or ‘apologize’ and does not use any synonym for that word. There is no statement here that says, ‘We are sorry.’

"Second, the grammar of the statement condemns the actions of a third party. An apology, to be pedantic, is when the first party says to the second party, ‘I have offended you and I am sorry.’ This statement condemns a third party -- misguided individuals -- that does not officially represent the United States. The term ‘individuals’ dissociates them from the U.S. Therefore, it's impossible to say that this is an apology from the U.S. to anyone.

"Third, the statement does not apologize for the right of free speech; it affirms it. It condemns those who abuse the right of free speech, but it claims that this is a universal right, as is religious toleration. So, the statement does not like what the misguided individuals said and did, but recognizes they have a right to do it."

"It's a condemnation," Murphy said, "not an apology."

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2012/sep/12/romney-says-us-embassy-statement-was-apology-was-i/

In the late afternoon on Sept. 11, Nuland confirmed that the U.S. consulate in Libya was under attack, but she did not say if anyone had been killed. In her statement — the first official statement we could find from the State Department in Washington — Nuland said: “We condemn in strongest terms this attack on our diplomatic mission.” There was no sympathizing with the attackers. The statement was issued before the deaths were confirmed.

http://factcheck.org/2012/09/romney-gets-it-backward/
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Fgiriun

(169 posts)
4. Most articles I've read so far do...
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 08:39 PM
Sep 2012

example:
"Yes, the White House distanced itself from the initial statement put out by the U.S. Embassy in Cairo that apologized for a crass anti-Muslim film that had been making the rounds on the Internet."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/13/romney-white-house-agrees_n_1882415.html

jenmito

(37,326 posts)
10. A HuffPo article counts as the media? And even in the article you just posted for me, did you
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 09:47 PM
Sep 2012

see this?: "Correction: An earlier version of this post said the administration "apologized" for the anti-Muslim film. In fact, as PolitiFact noted, the embassy in Cairo condemned the movie but did not apologize for it."

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
2. well you knew that the corporate media would NOT sit by and let Romney suck as he does..
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 08:31 PM
Sep 2012

you knew that they'd try to make it all better for him.

It was not an apology. The media sucks.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
3. the people from the embassy need to speak and say a huge fuck you... get your ass over here
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 08:39 PM
Sep 2012

and diplomatically deal with these issue. be totally offended. and dare them to in their face say it was an apology

Thrill

(19,178 posts)
6. So whats wrong with saying sorry when you're scared?
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 08:44 PM
Sep 2012

Its easy for these chickenhawk pieces of shit who are sitting in their mansions to talk tough.

But when angry mobs are around you in a foreign country and trying to kill you. You'll say anything.

Mittens would probably cry like a baby if he was over there.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
8. Except that...
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 09:43 PM
Sep 2012

1) it wasn't an apology, and
2) it wasn't made when the embassy was under attack.



Seriously, if DUers can't get the facts straight, why should we be surprised when other people buy into the Repug narrative?



former9thward

(32,017 posts)
7. Whatever it was it was poorly written and timed given what had happened.
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 08:58 PM
Sep 2012

That is why the White House disavowed it.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
9. What "had" happened...?
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 09:45 PM
Sep 2012

Or more like "what wound up happening in the future?"

Nice of those embassy officials to be clairvoyant.



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