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Are Sanders fans whistling past the graveyard? (Original Post) MineralMan Dec 2015 OP
There's something wrong about being optimistic about a campaign one supports? Armstead Dec 2015 #1
No. Nothing wrong with that. MineralMan Dec 2015 #9
Nope. n/t djean111 Dec 2015 #2
Nope, but thanks for your 'concern' sweetie...! peacebird Dec 2015 #3
Sweetie? Do we know each other? MineralMan Dec 2015 #10
That WAS your wife! Bwa-ha-ha-ha! randome Dec 2015 #18
Nah. I checked with her. She doesn't MineralMan Dec 2015 #61
You win the thread! MADem Dec 2015 #47
MM? JackInGreen Dec 2015 #4
SSDD in both camps I'd say. Nothing new. Bloods n Crips. nc4bo Dec 2015 #5
It's supposed to, They appeal to " feelings " rather than Reason, Math and History, fortunately orpupilofnature57 Dec 2015 #6
Are flamebait posts about Bernie Sanders getting old? farleftlib Dec 2015 #7
??? MineralMan Dec 2015 #14
I suppose they are, but it doesn't stop the frustrated posters... MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #56
Now that's kinda funny. MoonRiver Dec 2015 #64
Don't worry..... daleanime Dec 2015 #8
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out... comradebillyboy Dec 2015 #71
If you weren't all over the place, I'd put you on ignore. pacalo Dec 2015 #11
I know none of the admins. MineralMan Dec 2015 #12
Lol! sabrina 1 Dec 2015 #51
Laughter is the best medicine, I've heard. MineralMan Dec 2015 #62
Sometimes retirement is hard on people artislife Dec 2015 #36
Jury results - With props to juror 7 Live and Learn Dec 2015 #45
As you can see from other posts, this is just a flamebait OP. artislife Dec 2015 #49
Yep. Sad to see. nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #50
Post removed Post removed Dec 2015 #13
It's almost like Frank Luntz had a garage sale, getting rid of all the memes that didn't work. djean111 Dec 2015 #17
I was thinking of Glengarry Glen Ross. OnyxCollie Dec 2015 #25
That one scene with Jack Lemon...one of the saddest I have seen.... artislife Dec 2015 #31
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I haven't put him on ignore OnyxCollie Dec 2015 #43
Nope Bjornsdotter Dec 2015 #15
I agree. NurseJackie Dec 2015 #16
No. They were always going to lose. onehandle Dec 2015 #19
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and you of course are helping to put trump in the oval....good job there.... bowens43 Dec 2015 #34
Absolutely, but I'm fine with it. Bleacher Creature Dec 2015 #20
Riiiiight... And Thanks A Lot For Your Supposed Former Support... WillyT Dec 2015 #21
Yep catnhatnh Dec 2015 #32
Not at all. But I do question the motives of posters who spend most of their time posting about Autumn Dec 2015 #22
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What's the bad news? morningfog Dec 2015 #23
You have it exactly correct -- That is all bad news for Hillary. JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #27
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Most Ironic Post Of The Year !!! - And Just Under The Wire... WillyT Dec 2015 #24
No, but thanks for your concern. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2015 #26
Just h's . nt artislife Dec 2015 #28
This situation has been stagnant for three months. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #33
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Time slows down now. The first two states are very close. morningfog Dec 2015 #41
Yup kenfrequed Dec 2015 #66
LOL ROFL HAHAHAHA LMAO!!!!!!! Scootaloo Dec 2015 #48
I feel the same way about Clinton supporters. Motown_Johnny Dec 2015 #37
I'm not sure Sanders has any "fans" tularetom Dec 2015 #40
Yeah and the OP ostensibly began as a Bernie supporters. morningfog Dec 2015 #42
The funny thing is, The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2015 #54
Are you posting vague insinuations and baiting statements again? Scootaloo Dec 2015 #44
Is it Wednesday? nt artislife Dec 2015 #52
1/7th of the time Scootaloo Dec 2015 #53
Hillary Is One Slip Up From Being Upset Yallow Dec 2015 #46
Just like Barack Obama... brooklynite Dec 2015 #70
No. This supporter expects hilly to win. cali Dec 2015 #55
Well, to help his opponent out I refuse to go to see Michael Bey Benghasi Bullcrap movie. mikehiggins Dec 2015 #57
Oh, and no, we're not whistling at all unless it's to "This land belongs to you and me." n/t mikehiggins Dec 2015 #58
Here's a mirror. Use it when talking like that. eom Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #59
No, aspirant Dec 2015 #60
Some people seem a bit confused, so here's a video: MineralMan Dec 2015 #63
By "bad news" do you mean the prospect of Ron Green Dec 2015 #65
Are some HRC supporters so passive-aggressive that they are afraid to say their thoughts directly? aikoaiko Dec 2015 #67
umm. Directly I say to you.. riversedge Dec 2015 #68
Passive-aggressive acts are not a pathology. It is a behavior used in a diagnosis, however. aikoaiko Dec 2015 #69
They have taken over this board and KOS. Dawson Leery Dec 2015 #72
Denial is not just a river in Africa Gothmog Dec 2015 #73
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
18. That WAS your wife! Bwa-ha-ha-ha!
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 10:08 PM
Dec 2015

Ignoring numbers (reality) does not serve any purpose, from what I can see. Clinton pretty much has this wrapped up. I think if anyone is still disappointed, the best (productive) frame of mind to be in is to work with what we have.

And to not give up, as so many here on DU seem to want to do.
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JackInGreen

(2,975 posts)
4. MM?
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 09:40 PM
Dec 2015

We really need to find a treatment for that. This troll condition takes so much away from your other posts.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
5. SSDD in both camps I'd say. Nothing new. Bloods n Crips.
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 09:41 PM
Dec 2015

O'Malley's still trying to catch some daylight.......

Yep. SSDD.

 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
6. It's supposed to, They appeal to " feelings " rather than Reason, Math and History, fortunately
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 09:41 PM
Dec 2015

people are waking up to the fact that leading in the polls is a one trick pony also employed by the Donald, who is also ahead by light years in the polls, then what?

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
56. I suppose they are, but it doesn't stop the frustrated posters...
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 02:10 AM
Dec 2015

Perhaps we should just let them cry themselves to sleep.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
8. Don't worry.....
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 09:46 PM
Dec 2015

if it's proven to me that there's no place in the Democratic Party for me, I won't stay.

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
11. If you weren't all over the place, I'd put you on ignore.
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 09:49 PM
Dec 2015

Your moral authority on everything is irritating, & now I sense that your stirring up trouble with Bernie supporters is a kiss-up to the administrators. I'm not fooled by you.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
36. Sometimes retirement is hard on people
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 11:27 PM
Dec 2015

I belong to a closed FB group that discussed world events with people from around the globe. There was one old guy from Florida who just liked to come in and stir up stuff. He sounded a lot like MM, actually...same folksy writing, pleading ignorance, etc.

The group leader kept him in because it was kind of amusing for awhile. He knew so much in a very tiny sliver. But then it was not progressing any real conversation. He was giving himself high fives all around, thinking he was winning arguments. But it wasn't about winning on the internet. It was about discussion.

We haven't missed that stuff since he was booted.

And here I am giving you a story that has nothing to do with this OP. This is how it is done.



Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
45. Jury results - With props to juror 7
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 11:49 PM
Dec 2015

On Wed Dec 30, 2015, 07:40 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Sometimes retirement is hard on people
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=961595

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Ugh. Poster is "telling a story" in order to insult Mineral Man, comparing him to another "old guy" and trying to pull this off without confronting him directly. Very bad form, yet "this is how it's done." Yuck.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Dec 30, 2015, 07:47 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

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Explanation: Since making a passive aggressive point to criticize some other DUer through a rambling story is Mineral Man's usual MO, I really don't think hiding somebody else for doing the same exact thing is the least bit fair. At least artislife got to the damned point, MM's OPs make the begats in the old testament seem like fascinating reading.

Response to MineralMan (Original post)

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
25. I was thinking of Glengarry Glen Ross.
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 10:41 PM
Dec 2015

Just change leads to memes.

Glengarry Glen Ross (1992) Quotes- IMDB
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104348/quotes

Blake: You're talking about what. You're talking about... Bitching about that sale you shot, some sonofabitch who don't wanna buy land, some broad you're trying to screw, so forth. Let's talk about something important. They all here?

Williamson: All but one.

Blake: I'm going anyway. Let's talk about something important. Put. That coffee. Down. Coffee's for closers only. You think I'm fucking with you? I am not fucking with you. I'm here from downtown. I'm here from Mitch and Murray. And I'm here on a mission of mercy. Your name's Levine? You call yourself a salesman you son of a bitch?

Dave Moss: I don't gotta sit here and listen to this shit.

Blake: You certainly don't pal, 'cause the good news is - you're fired. The bad news is - you've got, all of you've got just one week to regain your jobs starting with tonight. Starting with tonight's sit. Oh? Have I got your attention now? Good. "Cause we're adding a little something to this month's sales contest. As you all know first prize is a Cadillac El Dorado. Anyone wanna see second prize? Second prize is a set of steak knives. Third prize is you're fired. Get the picture? You laughing now? You got leads. Mitch and Murray paid good money, get their names to sell them, you can't close the leads you're given you can't close shit. You ARE shit. Hit the bricks, pal, and beat it 'cause you are going OUT.
 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
31. That one scene with Jack Lemon...one of the saddest I have seen....
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 11:16 PM
Dec 2015

But not half as sad as this OP.

I might have to put MM on ignore just because I am not willing to watch his squirts littering the GDP.

Response to artislife (Reply #31)

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
43. I haven't put him on ignore
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 11:45 PM
Dec 2015

because I'm interested to hear the words of wisdom from DU's right wing counterpart to Will Pitt.

There are a few others I keep around out of morbid curiosity, like watching parasites devour people on Monsters Inside Me.

Response to onehandle (Reply #19)

Bleacher Creature

(11,257 posts)
20. Absolutely, but I'm fine with it.
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 10:26 PM
Dec 2015

Having Sanders in the race has been a good thing, and he's certainly welcome to see it through to the end. Personally, I agree with him on a huge number of issues. I support HRC in this race because I see her as a better candidate, and as a FAR more effective President, if elected.

Stranger things have happened, but Sanders is looking very likely to lose 18 out of the first 20 primaries (maybe more). If that plays out and he stays in the race solely to be a spoiler, that's a problem. But in the meantime, I'm happy to let his supporters take all the time they need to get prepared.

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
32. Yep
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 11:17 PM
Dec 2015

It's a shame that unlike the NFL we have no penalty for lining up in the neutral zone. Even if you do it under false pretenses....

Autumn

(45,096 posts)
22. Not at all. But I do question the motives of posters who spend most of their time posting about
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 10:37 PM
Dec 2015

Sanders supporters and can't seem to find anything to post about the candidate they support. It leads me to believe there is a problem there.

Response to Autumn (Reply #22)

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
23. What's the bad news?
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 10:38 PM
Dec 2015

Last edited Wed Dec 30, 2015, 11:16 PM - Edit history (1)

It looks like he's going to pass Hillary in fundraising this quarter. He's showing strong, and has been for a while, in the first two states. Focus closes in now that we're at 2016.

This was the pre-game. The qualifying round. Bernie qualified. He's doing better than anyone ever would have predicted a year ago. Against the most anticipated and expected candidate for nomination in modern history, he has made it competitive.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
27. You have it exactly correct -- That is all bad news for Hillary.
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 11:09 PM
Dec 2015

It explains the 'concerns' we see raised here by Clinton supporters.

Response to morningfog (Reply #23)

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
24. Most Ironic Post Of The Year !!! - And Just Under The Wire...
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 10:41 PM
Dec 2015

Bernie is not trying to save himself from exposure... like HRC/DNC/DWS are.


 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
33. This situation has been stagnant for three months.
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 11:17 PM
Dec 2015

Hillary leads two to one and has for months now.

I can't remember a national poll where she was lower than 50%, either. That's a stark contrast to this time in 2007.

Response to MohRokTah (Reply #33)

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
41. Time slows down now. The first two states are very close.
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 11:41 PM
Dec 2015

Everything changes, including the significance of national polling, after NH. And again after Iowa. I can't wait.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
66. Yup
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 12:52 PM
Dec 2015

Actually national polling before the primaries and caucuses have even started is not an absolute indicator. It is a good measure of name recognition.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
48. LOL ROFL HAHAHAHA LMAO!!!!!!!
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 11:56 PM
Dec 2015



....

Nope, not seeing the appeal. I guess that'll just be your thing.
 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
37. I feel the same way about Clinton supporters.
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 11:29 PM
Dec 2015

The bold statements about her being the next President, as if there were no doubt.

It seems like they are trying to convince themselves of something, but are failing.



tularetom

(23,664 posts)
40. I'm not sure Sanders has any "fans"
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 11:39 PM
Dec 2015

Just read the posts here. Most of those supporting Sanders are written by those who are aware that he is the only candidate of either party who is addressing the issues that the middle class in America cares about.

There is however, a Democratic candidate who has lots of "fans". Most of their posts refer to superficial crap like hair, pantsuits, grandchild, etc., and manage to avoid the issues.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
42. Yeah and the OP ostensibly began as a Bernie supporters.
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 11:43 PM
Dec 2015

That should tell you all you need to know about his schtick.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,719 posts)
54. The funny thing is,
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 12:20 AM
Dec 2015

I haven't seen any comments by this OP explaining exactly why he supports Hillary, other than his disdain for Bernie's supporters and his belief that Hillary is more likely to win. But nothing about why her policy positions are actually better than Bernie's; just these passive-aggressive rhetorical questions.

 

Yallow

(1,926 posts)
46. Hillary Is One Slip Up From Being Upset
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 11:53 PM
Dec 2015

I don't appreciate Right Wing smears one bit, and totally ignore them. The problem for me is all the $$ she has got from the fat cats. There is some there there, and it can be devastating if something comes out. It seems her supporters ignore the fact that she has had the DLC mindset for all those years, and isn't any different now.

There is no way she takes all that Wall Street cash, and then works for my families interests over theirs. She will need their cash for her re-election if she wins the general, and she knows it.

We elect Bernie, or we're screwed.

Again.

She has been paid, and will have to perform.

Now there is the seeds to her downfall.

Bernie won't go there.

Millions of us understand how you pay to play in our current government.

Bernie understands it is wrong, as I do.

And so should everyone reading this thread.

brooklynite

(94,585 posts)
70. Just like Barack Obama...
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 01:33 PM
Dec 2015

...who didn't repeal the Bush Tax Cuts for the 1%...

...or increase accessibility to health care for millions...

...or stand ready to veto any attempt to repeal Planned Parenthood funding...

Just more of the same.

mikehiggins

(5,614 posts)
57. Well, to help his opponent out I refuse to go to see Michael Bey Benghasi Bullcrap movie.
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 03:18 AM
Dec 2015

See, I'm not a conspiracy buff or anything like that (though I was a Goldwater BOY in NYS back in the day) but in a world where American Sniper may be Oscar bound a movie that openly repeats a lie about HRC's people stopping a rescue attempt is way beyond the pale, and doesn't deserve a penny of my Social Security.

Remember how successful Black Hawk Down was? Did anybody stop to think what those American soldiers were doing there? Can anybody doubt that the sturm und drung (did I get that right?) of US CIA mercenaries being told to stand down is going to fuel the wacko-right-wing? Is Cruz and Rubio et al going to make an appearance on the red carpet?

Bey should stick to the Transformers and let real directors direct real movies.

Just saying...

Ron Green

(9,822 posts)
65. By "bad news" do you mean the prospect of
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 12:14 PM
Dec 2015

continuing this neoliberal system that's bought and managed by the 1%, or do you mean some "horse race" issues surrounding the polls and delegates?

If it's really "bad news" it affects us all.

aikoaiko

(34,170 posts)
67. Are some HRC supporters so passive-aggressive that they are afraid to say their thoughts directly?
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 12:59 PM
Dec 2015

Oh, you betchya.

riversedge

(70,239 posts)
68. umm. Directly I say to you..
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 01:04 PM
Dec 2015

Happy New Year..

Oh--and leave the diagnosing to the psychotherapists.



aikoaiko

(34,170 posts)
69. Passive-aggressive acts are not a pathology. It is a behavior used in a diagnosis, however.
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 01:11 PM
Dec 2015

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Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
72. They have taken over this board and KOS.
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 04:40 PM
Dec 2015

They did the same thing in 2008. The stop Hillary crowd will do anything to win just as the Trumpites will do the same.

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