2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumPolls Show Attacks on Bill Clinton May Only Help Hillary Clinton
But the numbers show that Mr. Trump, the billionaire developer and Republican presidential hopeful, might not be dealing with a hand as strong as he thinks when he reminds voters of Mr. Clintons history of infidelity.
Hillary Clintons popularity has had its peaks and valleys during her decades in the public spotlight, most recently rising to new heights when she was serving as secretary of state. Her other peak, according to polls, was in 1998 while her husband was embroiled in the Lewinsky scandal and facing impeachment.
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/12/31/polls-show-attacks-on-bill-clinton-may-only-help-hillary-clinton/
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Voters across the spectrum were disgusted and it backfired very badly on them. The only ones who liked it were hard-core conservatives, and especially strong social conservatives. Those, of course, are the minority tRump's trying to draw to him.
I'd actually feel sorry for the GOP if the specters of fascism and increasing transfer of power and wealth to a plutocrat class didn't scare me so badly.
Human101948
(3,457 posts)And by the time he let office, Bill's ratings were sky high. Meanwhile...
Mr. Bush's final approval rating is the lowest final rating for an outgoing president since Gallup began asking about presidential approval more than 70 years ago.
The rating is far below the final ratings of recent two-term presidents Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan, who both ended their terms with a 68 percent approval rating, according to CBS News polling.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bushs-final-approval-rating-22-percent/
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)to their Kool-Aid. It's up to us. Happy, responsible, dutiful 2016, everyone.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)The Eagles forever changed country and rock, but I just think of what they did as being great American music. It's amazing how one band could take all those influences country and rock, of course, but also soul, R&B and folk and still sound so distinctive.
The Eagles were a real band. After an album or two, Don Henley and Glenn Frey turned into one of rock's all-time great songwriting teams. But everyone contributed material and incredible musicianship to the effort: Randy Meisner and Bernie Leadon, then Don Felder, and later Joe Walsh and Timothy B. Schmit. They started out in the age of the sensitive singer-songwriter, and their music was as smart and sensitive as anyone's, but when they called upon it, they also had the power of a great rock & roll band.
The first song of theirs that I vividly remember hearing was "Take It Easy." Those lyrics by Frey and Jackson Browne could have been from any Merle Haggard or Willie Nelson song, but the instrumentation and energy were decidedly rock. The combination sounded so powerful.
I also remember being on a long cross-country family road trip as a kid, driving across the Texas desert at night. The only radio station we could get was a scratchy AM station from who knows where. The haunting opening strains of "Hotel California" came on the radio. My father thought that all of us kids were asleep; I immediately assumed that he would shut the radio off. But he didn't. He couldn't resist it any more than I could.
The Eagles provided the soundtrack to so many of my summers, and likely many of yours, too. Their melodies and harmonies have always been instantly familiar. "Desperado," "Take It to the Limit," "Tequila Sunrise" and "Best of My Love" are some of the best pop songs ever written. To this day, it simply doesn't get any better than that guitar riff from "Life in the Fast Lane."
When I sang backup for Don Henley in the early Nineties, it was a surreal experience, supplying vocals every night to Eagles songs. The audience's reaction to those classics cemented their value in my head. In my own way, I got to experience the power of the Eagles' music. But then again, we all have.
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/100-greatest-artists-of-all-time-19691231/eagles-20111216
Romulox
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(99,710 posts)Romulox
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(99,710 posts)If you can not appreciate the musical genius of the Eagles there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion.
Romulox
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(99,710 posts)Thank you in advance.
Romulox
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(99,710 posts)Romulox
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(99,710 posts)Romulox
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(99,710 posts)aidbo
(2,328 posts)Romulox
(25,960 posts)Rose Siding
(32,623 posts)Poor form
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)We all want attention. It's part of Maslow's Hierarchy Of Needs. The difference is what kind of attention we seek.
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(10,565 posts)riversedge
(70,242 posts)comes after him.
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ejbr
(5,856 posts)Trump's bullshit almost makes ME want to vote for her.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)And that makes me smile!
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Some love him. Some hate him. And a lot of people have very mixed feelings but strong opinions on both sides.
Personally, I think he is brilliant and a masterful politician. And if he had actually been a populist liberal would have been one of the greatest presidents ever. But he sold out to the Dark Suide along the way. He both neutered Democratic Liberalism and advanced the Corporate Agenda and became -- on issues of wealth and power -- as bad as any republican.
And despite his brilliance he also turned out to be amazingly stupid and reckless in his personal behavior. True the GOP should not have gone on their jihad against him, but Bill asked for it when he had illicit sex in the White House and then lied about it over and over.
Long/Short of it is -- with some attacking him will be effective. For others it will be a negative. But the real querstion is: When faced with the prospect of another eight years of the Clinton hoe many people in the middle will just say: "Oh to hell with it. I don't want to go back to all that Clinton crap."
underpants
(182,826 posts)No Bill isn't universally liked but we remember that that was the GOOD TIMES.
BTW I heard on the radio that 20% of the US population wasn't alive during the Lewinsky mess. This was on RW radio mind you. The host said that "we're going to have to relive that whole thing". At their peril, looking back the whole thing will come off as even more ridiculous than it did to those who lived through it. IMHO.
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)say otherwise.
I think it was Dean on Morning Joe the other day who said anyone who attacks him is the one who is going to look like an "imbecile" (imbecile was the word used).