You keep telling yourself that, though, if it helps.

Keep watching...

is what many people seem to miss.

Hillary Is By Any Measure A Losing Proposition in The General Due To So Much History, Most of which is NEGATIVE.

therefore can judge others. Funny how reality has stumped philosophers for centuries but you got it down pat.

Looks to me like lots of people are living in a reality based on supply side or trickle down economics. Let the wealthy have all our resources and they will take good care of us. They are oblivious to the fact that the wealthy 1% have been draining the wealth and resources from the 99% for at least 40 years and if we let it continue, we will all be paupers. Maybe the reality of those that worship the wealthy is that they think the wealthy will be nice to them. I have a message, the Oligarchy doesn't love us. They want our wealth and resources and will kill us to get them.

own defined reality that can ignore those among us that need help and vote for the corrupt establishment that has brought us to where we are. I see people that the best I can figure, worship the wealthy.

I mean Every shot.

You can hide quite alot that way.

Like lack of crowds.

Number one really stands out for being so carefully placed. Almost scripted, but Hillary would never do that.

You can look beyond the "crowd" in Pic #1 and there is no one there. Not even shadows of the epic throngs dying to get a glimpse of her.

Ok back to recovering from foot surgery. I need more ice and painkillers.

Sitting here at 3:30am am in the morning and got tired of doing Kendo Katas from my chair and thought I would see whats going on here.

Yup same shit.

Lookout come election day... I mean I cannot imagine people who are so amped up on Hillary not wanting to go and see her in person in large numbers IF they were so psyched to caucus or vote for her. But what do I know?

It can't be just any women or the next inline.

not so much. Margaret Thatcher comes to mind. I want to emphasize that I am in no way comparing Clinton to Thatcher, but just making the point that women candidates should be given equal consideration as president, but the fact of being a woman doesn't make them better. Some are good. Some are not. I won't vote for someone on account of their gender.

A revolutionary election in 2008, and soon another one in 2016. Breaking ground.

The days of old white men as President will soon be over, once and for all. And good riddance to them!

backed by the Oligarchy. A progressive President that truly supports "Hope and Change".

the 50,000,000 Americans living in poverty. But a vote for the Oligarch's candidate won't help anyone but the wealthy.

There must be an "-ism" to cover the worship of the wealthy.

True, Hillary's victory will not be a revolution. Opening up the Presidency to a black or a woman does not a revolution make, and certainly not if the black or woman is backed by and subservient to a corrupt oligarchy,

and spinning the polls.

Man or woman, is not important, athough I would like to see a woman president.

This time the best candidate is a man. An older gentleman with frizzy hair and kinda frumpled.. and his own teeth.

Aren't these PICS from her PAID ro ne e pc

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Don't think. Does that mean I have to stop thinking?

Bah Ha.

infamous champagne glasses from that fateful day. A testament to Hillary Clinton's Solidarity!

Arrow Turn Gold? It's such a wonderful color match-up with the contents in the glass!


No Frets, though... I will Vote the D ticket like I have always done - even if she becomes the candidate. Definitely not the first choice by a Long-shot Though. A big change in the Party is A MUST and am glad we have such Talent and Intelligence on the side w/in our candidates!

Happy New Year!

Your cutesy reply doesn't say. I'm starting to think personal photoshop, and not clever.

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Whatever you say.

But we need more negativity here like a we need more dog turds for flies to land on.

Great first day post. We could make a lot of assumptions about your goals, intentions, etc.

Always.

"selfie-sized"

that is an AWESOME handful of Hillary supporters! Never mind the thousands of Bernie suporters, Hillary is the real deal.

It should be fairly obvious.

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.

???

and I was FIRED UP AND READY TO GO in 2008!!!!!

Better yet, remind yourself why you didn't think she was the better candidate.

...between equally outstanding candidates.

Millions of us felt that way.

In NYC( her "home" state) Sanders drew 27,000 in LA, 20,000 + many other times...Hillary was last years candidate in 08' She's a loser in the GE.

It's votes that elect candidates not poll numbers.

Any Hillary supporter should be well aware of that after 2008.

Nit the first time the big number rally takers did not win the primary but then Sanders supporters know this.

She was last year's candidate in 08' and her Third Way conservatism plays even worse today. The passionate, motivated progressives just are not into her. She missed her chance. If she makes it to the GE she might, win, but It'll be a nail biter and we'll get SLAUGHTERED down ticket. No coat tails with her, only more Third Way shifting to the right. NO THANKS.

...is even supposed to mean, especially since it IS meaningless.

10's of supporters lol

at the NEED some Sanders supporters have to crap on even the most unthreatening Clinton posts. I am not referring to all Sanders people, some of whom are very nice. Unfortunately, the ones who chose to comment here are not among them.

I guess they have nothing better to do, or are bored.

I think it's mostly denial, especially as things get bleaker and bleaker.

I haven't posted (or even read, really) anything on DU since Bush was president. But I'm a millennial on the upper end of that millennial age range, and I can tell you that many of us millennials who were just old enough to vote in 2004, which happened to be the first election for most of us, are behind Clinton. We're the people who supported Dean in the 2004 primary (and voted for Kerry when it mattered) and the people who supported Obama in 2008. Obviously, we're not in college anymore, but we're not that far removed either (5 years, 10 years tops), and we're still in our late 20s/early 30s. I can't speak for all of us, but most of us older ones have moved past that stage in life where we go out to rallies to hear what politicians have to say. We already know by now, we don't need a rally to motivate us. Some of us don't even have the ability to get out to these things, as we have other priorities in life (family, careers, etc.) that are bigger than rallies. It's not for a lack of enthusiasm, it's just that we are at a different point in our lives where rallies don't fit in and are not really for us.

Anyway, to reiterate, I can't speak for all of us, but there are a lot more of us (and I'm not suggesting "all" or even "most" of us) supporting Clinton than anybody would lead you on to believe. We're the same people who said we were "holding our nose" to vote for Kerry in 2004 because, according to us, he was all of these awful things that the Bernie Sanders supporters say Hillary Clinton is in 2015. To be honest, we were also the same people who were worried to death about Clinton getting the nomination in 2008 and said we'd hold our noses then too if we had to vote for her, but we've come around by now. I think my whole point is that I can understand the enthusiasm the younger millennials have for Sanders, because we felt that way about our own precursors to Sanders back in the day, but as we grow older, we learn to appreciate that there are more things to consider about a candidate than just hearing what we want to hear. I'm not saying we're more "right" or anything like that, just that we start looking at things from a much different perspective as we grow older. We don't look back and say "we were wrong," because we backed solid candidates, it's really more of a "yeah, we backed good candidate and don't regret it, but I can see why this one would be more effective" (or as the case was with Obama, we actually did get what we wanted).

And what positions do you not agree with?

Or.. what comparisons can you make about them?

The same few post a lot. I greatly appreciate hearing from you. Your thoughts are as important as anyone else's. I hollow to hear more from you.

Thank you

I don't think anyone is saying that some Millennials don't support Hillary (much less many), only that it pales in comparison to Bernie's support among that group.



If you can't make an honest argument, then you are probably wrong. Your OP is not an honest argument.

It's gonna be a 2008 repeat.

Thanks for the pictures. There's a big world out there beyond DU!

I assume all the folks who suddenly sprouted an abuela are Latino/a?

and you translated it into "doesn't exist at all"

in attendance. Like we see all the time for Bernie.

I don't doubt at all that her supporters are quite enthusiastic, but there's just not the numbers. And with every poll it seems her numbers drop and Bernie's rise.

And I am so fucking sick of the "But Bernie can't possible with the general election" that I'd like to, well, I'm just sick of that. We heard the same thing over and over again about Obama, and remind me again how that one turned out?

If there were more, the angle would DEFINITELY be wider to capture those as well!

More like a handful here and a handful there....

I'm sure you heard how Bernie had tens of thousands turn out to see him in Iowa again last week? Everywhere he goes there are overflow crowds, Hillary events, yah, not so much. By a long shot not so much, not even close.

They are overwhelmingly white. Must be some mistake.

A significant proportion of them like Donald Trump as well. Really like him. I think --this is just a guess---that the Millennial support for Hillary is from the politically engaged--they don't need to be convinced. They are enthusiastic and will vote for her.

This may be part of why Sanders is trying to attract Trump supporters, that and the independent vote of course--as he has little chance of attracting the hard line republicans.