2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumJust on the edge of waking up from my nap I half dreamed we elected
Clinton/O'Malley! It was so odd since I love Bernie so much, but I could clearly see her and O'Malley together on a ticket and it made some sense...
OK, before you rip me up, this was just my drowsing brain just coming awake but it seemed kind of normal. I think it's because both of them will probably seem right for executive offices (O'Malley has been a governor and a mayor), and experienced in foreign policy with Clinton is as former SoS.
A huge question will be the baggage both have of course. That baggage could really backfire on such a ticket. And it is without minority representation -- very white and mainstream. It is odd, given the fact that we transitioned to having our first black president and for most of us, it is our new normal.
The Republican ticket could possibly be Trump/Rubio. I really do. The Party seems to want a realyl strong brew and the hell with anything else. It's given up on reason.
Faced with Republican insanity, voters turn to a ticket that offers stability and experience. The Obama/Biden ticket gave voters the first black president with a compelling vision coupled with an experienced foreign policy veep. I see a similar balance in my formulation.
OK, there it is. I thought you might want to see where my brain went at this very early point in the campaign...
MADem
(135,425 posts)We need fresh blood on the national scene, that looks like America!
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)me with Castro is probably voters wondering if such a very young leader could be the president if god forbid something happened to the President.
MADem
(135,425 posts)with a population greater than 11 American states. He's demonstrated a capacity to run a complex cabinet post, and he's ready for more. Obama needed Biden and Clinton when he first jumped into the POTUS gig, this guy would benefit from Clinton's wisdom and experience, as well as the experience of the cabinet Clinton chooses.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)the office of President if that is the case?" I clearly see O'Malley but Castro still seems like leader in the making as he matures. But it's a possibility.
What do you think of my Trump/Rubio formulation?
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)into a strong domestic policy at the federal level.
What strikes me about O'Malley is how he projects stability, but that's a first take. I really need to know more about him...
MrChuck
(279 posts)THE Ticket for 2016.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)dream died a hard death when she decided not to run. So I don't expect Sanders/Warren would ever come to pass...
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)The former to bring in Ohio and working class white males if that is possible and the latter to really excite the Hispanic electorate.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)mantle. For one thing, he's in his early 50s and would have the possibility of the presidency that would induce him to take the second spot.
As for Castro, he is a real plus but we can't really see him in the Oval Office if need be. I think we're so used to Biden who we can feel comfortable with as VP that it is limiting to those who come after him...it's too bad but I think that's the way it has worked out...
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Hillary's weakness is with white working class male voters...Maybe they are irretrievably lost regardless of who she chooses as a running mate but Brown can help bring in Ohio. There is no realistic path to the White House for the GOP without Ohio...
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Who knows?
It probably won't be O'Malley, Castro, or Brown.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)was stable in case something happened.
Don't you think voters want stability in these very uncertain times? I think anyone with experience who exudes confidence and calm in the face of horrible times would be the natural choice by the voters. That's how I see this race. I think voters see Clinton having the foreign policy experience and would see MOM as a strong exec. who has experience governing at the state and local area. I think it's a strong ticket.
With Trump raving and roiling people, I think there is a real need out there for candidates who will GOVERN, not constantly stir the pot...
Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)White working class males are not likely to vote Dem anyway, but Castro will help with the Hispanic vote. (NOT saying she should pander towards Hispanics, just being realistic about how politics work.). This will be especially important if the GOP nominates Rubio, who might be able to peel off just enough of the Hispanic vote to make it risky for our side not to have a Hispanic on the ticket. Plus Castro shows tons of potential, and does not hurt the eyes.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)he said what others did here "what does he bring to the ticket?"
You know, I do have an answer to that: he brings a sense of stability. I don't understand why but I feel that way.
However, the glory of politics in what you don't know at the time and I surely don't know how Castro would be viewed by the voters overall. I think well, but how can I know before we have some legit polls and we won't have them til a bit later in 2016...prolly by late January at the rate we're going!