Ever onward!

at any of the other campaigns. How strange is that?

standing around holding signs.

since their signs read "Progressive Who Gets Things Done".

Which is a common trait among Bernie supporters.

Bernie has been the "Amendment King" in the Senate for adding progressive provisions to Senate bills.

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernie-gets-it-done-sanders-record-pushing-through-major-reforms-will-surprise-you

It is you Hillary supporters who are the ones engaged in wishful thinking, especially since Hillary herself has disclaimed the "progressive" label when it didn't suit her purpose.

Did you watch the first Dem debate--the first of 3 debates that Hillary wone??


Clinton: 'I'm A Progressive Who Likes To Get Things Done' (VIDEO)

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/hillary-clinton-progressive

BySara JerdePublishedOctober 13, 2015, 9:06 PM EDT 827 views

Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton identified herself as "a progressive" during the first Democratic debate on Tuesday night in Las Vegas, but she qualified it by saying she's one who gets things done.

CNN debate host Anderson Cooper asked Clinton whether she was a progressive or a moderate after the former secretary of state defended changing her stance on the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal.
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Clinton said she didn't "take a back seat to anyone" when it came to progressive experience or commitment.

"I'm a progressive, but I'm a progressive who likes to get things done," Clinton said to applause. "And I know how to find common ground and I know how to stand my ground and I have proved that in every position that I've had."..............



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https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2015/10/13/the-moment-when-hillary-clinton-won-the-first-democratic-debate/


The moment when Hillary Clinton won the first Democratic debate

By Stephen Stromberg October 13, 2015
Clinton: 'I'm a progressive that likes to get things done'
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Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton defends her "political identity" during the first Democratic debate on CNN. (CNN)

This is the moment when Hillary Clinton won Tuesday night’s Democratic debate: “I’m a progressive,” she said, “But I’m a progressive who likes to get things done.” Clinton went on to talk about how she has worked with Republicans to pass the Children’s Health Insurance Program, a bona-fide progressive victory. The message was: The way to advance progressive goals is not to toss off an ideologically satisfying wish-list of grandiose government programs and expect the country to suddenly fall into agreement, it is to admit that policymaking demands a sense of nuance and of the possible. Clinton made the case that she offers much more than political triangulation and an e-mail scandal. She argued that she offers thoughtfulness and competence — and that this does not make her an ideological turncoat.

“I’m not taking a backseat to anyone on my values, my principles and the results that I get,” she declared, before saying she would target additional federal spending at people who really need it rather than promising massive expansions of government programs in order to offer benefits to rich as well as poor. Bernie Sanders responded that he would radically raise taxes on the rich to pay for new universal entitlements, which can’t justify poorly targeted programs and is beyond politically impossible..........................

And arguing that the way to defeat isis was to demand silicon valley let government censor the internet and break everyone's iphone encryption. While Promising to expand, not end, the drug war.

Sure--- a "progressive that gets things done".

I will not argue with distortions. bye

Hillary is - and has always been - a progressive Democrat.

No we just have consera-dems and oligarchs infecting the party.

Hillary a Progressive democrat....snicker.

Obviously you are part of the problem.

Hillary Clinton will be the next progressive Democratic President of the United States. That you can't abide the fact that shows where your concerns really lie.

when she was a corporate lawyer defending power companies against ACORN and residential ratepayers?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/128079222

... earlier than HRC but it wasn't that much earlier and its only a couple more points.

That line of logic hasn't worked to pursuad anyone who believes people can change for the better

The poster I was replying to wrote, "Hillary is - and has always been - a progressive Democrat."

I was pointing out that she has not always been a progressive Democrat.

I lived in Arkansas when she was the state's First Lady. Several of my liberal professors at the University of Arkansas weren't particularly impressed with her sitting on Wal-Mart's board, since they viewed it as little more than mutual back-scratching, and a continuation of her corporatist nature that she had exhibited off and on since her days with the Rose Law Firm.

As First Lady of the United States, she supported a lot of her husband's disastrous policies, like NAFTA, welfare "reform", and repeal of Glass-Steagall.

As Senator from New York, she championed a disastrous war resolution that was being pushed by the same "vast right-wing conspiracy" that she had complained about just 4 years earlier. And nearly a decade after that, she was promoting the country that had been devastated by that war as a "business opportunity" to American corporations. Her approach to foreign policy closely followed that of her mentor, Henry Kissinger. She also praised the TPP as the "gold standard of trade agreements" and promoted the environmentally destructive practice of fracking in other countries.

So her background hardly qualifies her as a "progressive Democrat" in my book, and indeed, lots of others can see through her "progressive" facade as well. Heck, she can't even decide what she is, because recently she has claimed to be a die-hard progressive at times, but at other times she has admitted to being a centrist/moderate.

... she has admitted was a mistake or has intimated a change of heart.

You can of course claim she's nonredeemable and opportunistic but in that category none of the candidates can throw a stone in any way.

Sanders gets the points for being early, but some are overvaluing those points

Hell, she was trumpeting a war-torn Iraq as a "business opportunity" to her corporate friends nearly a decade after shilling for the vast right-wing conspiracy's plan to Invade Iraq. She laughed about Ghaddafi getting assassinated, and even about the prospects for starting a war against Iran. She has even called for regime change in Syria. What is it with secular Middle Eastern governments, where women had more rights than in theocratic Middle Eastern countries, being forcibly "regime changed"?

And Hillary is far too cozy with the Richie Riches. Even my mom, who was originally a Hillary supporter, has become disgusted with that, as have other members of my Arkansas family. No one in my Arkansas family is supporting her, she is too removed from the daily lives of ordinary citizens.

What's more, the TPP, which she helped to draft and promote, is a disaster waiting to happen.

And her husband coming to Arkansas to campaign against a liberal Democrat in a Senate primary was just another straw on the proverbial camel's back.

I am so freaking tired of the Clintons.

... she's not earned that much distrust IMHO.

There are people who've done worse than HRC and have been given more trust on the dem side.

There's no way SBS should be trusted with the guns issue IMHO... no way... to this day .... in a debate mind you... he dismiss's his votes as "rural" representation.

None of the candidates can throw stones... NOT ONE

Even though he has a D- rating from the NRA?

I have outlined a plethora of issues I have with Hillary's candidacy that date back to the time she was a corporate lawyer defending power companies against ratepayers in Arkansas. During those nearly 40 years, I have not seen anything in her background that would make me enthusiastically support her for the presidency. Nothing. To me, choosing her over Bernie is akin to choosing the zonk prize over the new car on Let's Make A Deal.

... brought on non rural areas.

Also

I don't think max 10 issues with Hillary actions out of 1000 is "a plethora", she's made some mistakes and admitted to them

If distrust lingers about her true intentions then that's understandable, I don't think a majority of the people looking at her are going to paint her in that light

Thanks so much riversedge for sharing these awesome pics!