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berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 01:52 PM Jan 2016

Oh No. O'Malley misses Ohio Ballot Deadline and Goes on the Attack against Clinton

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2016/01/02/omalley-identify-more-middle-class-than-clinton/78206782/

The amount of college debt that his family faces is one reason Democratic presidential hopeful Martin O'Malley believes he understands the struggles of middle-class Iowans better than Hillary Clinton does.

The former Maryland governor and longshot candidate often talks on the campaign trail about the debt load — reported by the Washington Post to be $339,200 — that he and his wife, Catherine, took on to put their daughters through four-year East Coast colleges. O'Malley simply responded, "Yes," on Saturday when asked by a journalist whether he's trying to convince Iowans that he identifies more with them than Clinton does.

"I am running with a bigger mountain of college debt than any other presidential candidate in this race," O'Malley said. "So, I understand the concerns of people, I understand the anxieties that moms and dads have when they're splitting up the bills around the kitchen table and trying to figure out how to give their kids a better life. And that's an asset, that's something I bring to this race."


According to the reporter, O'Malley received standing applause for that distinction against Clinton. She is just out-of-touch and not well liked by the working class in Iowa.... tsk...tsk... Too many 1/4 million dollar speaking engagements I guess.

The longshot Democrat faced a setback on Thursday when news broke that the campaign failed to get the 1,000 valid signatures needed to qualify for the ballot in Ohio, whose residents will go to the primary polls on March 15. O'Malley said Saturday he was "disappointed" and that his campaign will try and compete in the state on a "write-in basis." But he pivoted his remarks back to Iowa's first-in-the-nation caucus.
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Oh No. O'Malley misses Ohio Ballot Deadline and Goes on the Attack against Clinton (Original Post) berni_mccoy Jan 2016 OP
Title of this OP makes it sound like Hillary interfered with him getting on the ballot randys1 Jan 2016 #1
I was surprised to see the Ballot issue in the article berni_mccoy Jan 2016 #2
glad he's important enough for you to post this old news bigtree Jan 2016 #3
Old news? It was reported on Saturday and I didn't see it here berni_mccoy Jan 2016 #4
I'm much more interested in why, as a Sanders supporter, you think this is important to post here bigtree Jan 2016 #7
Both points were covered in the article, which is what you should think is the strange combo berni_mccoy Jan 2016 #8
I'm never surprised at the capacity for the media to advantage themselves of every angle and wedge bigtree Jan 2016 #13
Again, you are free to have your opinion. But when he labels Clinton as disconnected with voters berni_mccoy Jan 2016 #19
Can you share where this is old news? Blue_Adept Jan 2016 #14
the Google search had it pinned to the top of the page all last week bigtree Jan 2016 #15
Everything I see is from four days ago Blue_Adept Jan 2016 #16
well, you go with that bigtree Jan 2016 #17
O'Malley has been on point almost every second of the campaign. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #5
I heard from Bernie every week for 10 years. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #6
That is awesome to hear!!!! I never agreed with the "he has no name recognition...." NCTraveler Jan 2016 #10
+1 Although, I would like to see him head up the EPA leftofcool Jan 2016 #9
That's an unusual and interesting preference anigbrowl Jan 2016 #20
On the attack??? elleng Jan 2016 #11
I don't care ismnotwasm Jan 2016 #12
hardly an attack Martin O'Malley is a class act rbrnmw Jan 2016 #18

randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. Title of this OP makes it sound like Hillary interfered with him getting on the ballot
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 01:54 PM
Jan 2016

Which of course didnt happen, but that is the impression I got before I read the article.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
2. I was surprised to see the Ballot issue in the article
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 01:55 PM
Jan 2016

It should be it's own story, but instead it's like a sub-story... OH BTW...

bigtree

(85,999 posts)
3. glad he's important enough for you to post this old news
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 02:15 PM
Jan 2016

...hoping, I would guess, for tears from the O'Malley camp.

That line about his college debt, btw, is delivered in a self-effacing way that always elicits understanding chuckles from the crowds he's speaking to. He's right, though, he and Bernie probably are more in touch with families who are challenged to balance their income with their families' needs. They're not poor or struggling, by any means, but they likely do understand the pressures of budgeting to meet those obligations.

More interesting to me though, is how this post looks to be angling for a wedge between Hillary supporters here and O'Malley supporters. Isn't the sour politics between Bernie supporters and Hillary's here enough without this kind of recycled flame bait?

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
4. Old news? It was reported on Saturday and I didn't see it here
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 02:17 PM
Jan 2016

Especially the ballot issue. And you can see his comment any way you like bigtree. That's your right.

bigtree

(85,999 posts)
7. I'm much more interested in why, as a Sanders supporter, you think this is important to post here
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 02:41 PM
Jan 2016

...O'Malley's problems in Ohio, and his answer to a question about Hillary which you highlight as an 'attack'.

Candidates have screwed up qualifying for the Ohio ballot and others without major consequences. If O'Malley's campaign catches steam, that problem may be solved with a write-in.

As for his differences with Hillary, that was pretty tame criticism, couched in a promotion of his own understanding of kitchen-table obligations many Americans face.

I can't imagine that you disagree with O'Malley on that point. Strange combo of concern about Ohio and concern about an 'attack' on Hillary, considering the source.


 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
8. Both points were covered in the article, which is what you should think is the strange combo
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 02:45 PM
Jan 2016

I didn't write the article. And I'm calling that out the oddity of that juxtaposition with my post. I also agree with O'Malley on his point that he is more in touch with the populace than Hillary is. The fact that you don't see it as an attack against Hillary and I do is a difference of opinion we are allowed to have.

bigtree

(85,999 posts)
13. I'm never surprised at the capacity for the media to advantage themselves of every angle and wedge
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 02:57 PM
Jan 2016

...in these campaigns. I'm even less surprised at the capacity of some posters here to further those controversies here.

O'Malley is dong what he's supposed to do, define his candidacy against the others. The article seeks to diminish him as a candidate while highlighting dissension in the Democratic ranks. It's pretty weak tea (as O'Malley says), and it's standard election fare.

Posted here, however, by a strident Bernie supporter, it performs like the wedge politics it's designed for.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
19. Again, you are free to have your opinion. But when he labels Clinton as disconnected with voters
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 08:55 PM
Jan 2016

based on wealth... I'm going to read that as an attack.

And as far as dubiousness of posting, have you been to GDP lately? This is nothing compared to what gets posted by hillarians on a daily basis.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
14. Can you share where this is old news?
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 03:10 PM
Jan 2016

I don't follow O'Malley news heavily, but I suspect it would have made a bit more of a ripple if it had happened awhile ago.

bigtree

(85,999 posts)
15. the Google search had it pinned to the top of the page all last week
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 03:30 PM
Jan 2016

...finally dropped it.

O'Malley, himself has shrugged it off, and the media isn't asking him about it at all.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
16. Everything I see is from four days ago
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 04:32 PM
Jan 2016

Hardly "all last week" and it was detailed over a New Year's holiday.

So I'd hardly qualify that as old news and something that folks here likely find relevant.

I don't see it showing up in the DU search either. So it's pretty relevant to some folks.

bigtree

(85,999 posts)
17. well, you go with that
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 04:37 PM
Jan 2016

...for me, it's old news and has already been posted in this forum.

It's also boring.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
5. O'Malley has been on point almost every second of the campaign.
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 02:37 PM
Jan 2016

Great barbs he has taken at Clinton and Sanders. Prediction. Sanders goes back to the senate little to be heard from as has been his past history. O'Malley leads the next generation of the Democratic Party by heading up the DNC.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
6. I heard from Bernie every week for 10 years.
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 02:40 PM
Jan 2016

I listen to the Thom Hartmann show.

In fact, I heard from Bernie more than from my own senators.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
10. That is awesome to hear!!!! I never agreed with the "he has no name recognition...."
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 02:48 PM
Jan 2016

shtick as a reason for his poll numbers either. I'm sure he will stay a staple of the Hartmann show so you won't miss anything from him. That is sweet.

ismnotwasm

(41,997 posts)
12. I don't care
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 02:51 PM
Jan 2016

O'Malley is a good man, in other circumstances he would have had my full and enthusiastic support--he's attempting to run a campaign. Candidates tend to criticize each other, to highlight differences.

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