2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDebbie Wasserman-Schultz hasn't been "hated" on any more than Rahm Emmanuel
Claiming that the criticism of the former is motivated by sexism, is pure bullshit. Just like Rahm, she earned it.
She refused, back in 2008, to endorse democratic candidates against right wing republicans.
Starting at 10 am today, a number of progressive blogs are going to encourage their readers to call the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee to complain about the unwillingness of DCCC Red-to-Blue Program Debbie Wasserman Scultzs refusal to assist Democratic contenders challenging her pro-Cuba embargo Republican House of Representative pals Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, Lincoln Diaz-Balart, and Mario Diaz-Balart.
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She's fine with sending medical marijuana users to prison with stiff sentences but hypocritically takes money from the booze industry.
She's been a lousy DNC Chair aside from the well known issues in the Primary.
She is relentlessly pro-corporate. She's one of only a handful of House Democrats who voted for fast track.
Uncle Joe
(58,421 posts)Thanks for the thread, cali.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)Rahm Emmanuel is fucking Dick Cheney evil. Neither has gotten the grief they truly deserve. I am quite tired of people defending the indefensible
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)GoneOffShore
(17,341 posts)But there's another elephant in the room as well.
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)very poorly at their respective jobs.
Both should go.
Sooner rather than later works for me.
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)From our view, they are backstabbing, lying, anti-progressive shitheels.
From their view, they are doing the bidding of Wall Street and Big Corpa. In that respect, they are doing very, very well. Just look at all the new toys Rahm's police farce will buy from Big Corpa to allow slightly less than fatal interactions between his CPD and the masses.
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)are on which levers of power. That's his gift, if it can be considered a "gift."
As you indicate, it can be a curse as well, depending on point of view.
I'd love to see a refreshingly pro-people mayoral candidate win in Chicago. It's a brawling mess of a town politically, but I still hold hope.
Debbie makes my skin crawl. She's in the tank for the power-brokers and downright clique-ish about it. A fiercely mediocre Chair of our party. Good god let's get some new blood in there to mount a full-court press against the GOP, especially this cycle, when Trump and Cruz and all the other crazies are leading Puke primary polling.
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)Mopar151
(9,998 posts)"A fiercely mediocre Chair of our party" - The sort of passive-agressive crap that has given me fits throughout my life. Known for pretzel-logic decisions at critical moments to the detriment of the larger enterprise.
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)cultural backdrop against which her recent clueless and cruel remarks on cannabis are presented.
I love the language in your comment, Mopar151. Strictly top-drawer.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)I can't believe the lengths people will go to in order to defend DWS.
Like comparing us to Nazis.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)That was pretty bizarre. And trying to be reasonable gets you nowhere at all.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Because angry Dems wanting DWS ousted from her position due to gross incompetence and corruption is JUST like what happened in Nazi Germany.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)I just saw that here yesterday and I wasn't aware of that. Pretty funny if it was. I bet he never knew he'd make that kind of impact.
one_voice
(20,043 posts)but her stance on marijuana bothers me the most. I read (paraphrasing here) that she's against it because she has kids. I have kids too and I'd rather them smoke a joint/bowl/bong/blunt than get rip roaring drunk.
I also know people that could benefit from medical marijuana and keeping it from them or punishing them for using it is cruel in my opinion.
But I'm also for legalizing it so...
I think **any** Democrats with these positions are doing the party more harm than good.
I'll just leave it at that.
djean111
(14,255 posts)attempt to make marijuana legal - would just stop telling the truth about her. She is totally for sale.
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)He deserved most of what he got her, but then so does DWS.
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)He was up way too early in the morning shining Dick Cheney's shoes.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Of whomever pays him the most. A walking scumbag of the highest order.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)Who are these idiots claiming sexism. I'd like to know. That is making women look bad by implying they can't judge someone on the issues. Calling someone a sexist when no facts to back up should be viewed as an insult and banned. Sorry but just because your a woman doesn't allow you to lie, corrupt or commit fraud. Debbie is a flat out liar and hypocrite and has no allegiance to OUR party. She supports her rich friends. She takes soooo much cash from the alcohol industry which demeans women and then claims harmless marijuana is a gateway drug while supporting private prisons. That's as slimey as it gets in my opinion.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts). . . were called racists for opposing NSA domestic spying.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)billhicks76
(5,082 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)yourout
(7,533 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)as far as I know Derpy Whatta Shmuck didn't try to bury a tape with evidence of a murder on it.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Myself and others have pointed out countless times why both of them are not good for our party.
Then you get the threads that go something like "Bernie only cares about wealth inequality."
Hmm...smells like bullshit.
senz
(11,945 posts)Gender only goes so far.
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)Neither one supports democracy, as we know it.
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)but totally dysfunctional.
eridani
(51,907 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Obviously, I'm misogynistically misogynizing with misogyny-laden misogyny, by pointing that out.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)And neither one because of their genitalia.
Backwoodsrider
(764 posts)DWS was placed as leader of the DNC by those already in power to keep them in power, period. Its not what she says but what she has done. I don't even know what she sounds like but I have been watching what this shill has done in last few years and her performance is not about being a poor DNC leader, just poor for the middle class. She is doing her job great if we are in the top 1%.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)I described her voice. It wasn't mean. It wasn't nasty, it wasn't derogatory. I don't see a problem with that.
senz
(11,945 posts)Reading the reply titles, I thought you were trying to be snarky. Sorry!
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)Thanks for your understanding.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)appointed. It's the DEMOCRATIC Party.
Democratic-h
(1 post)The end for South Florida Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz could come this August, in a Democratic congressional primary, at the hands of a 62-year-old mail carrier who once landed a tiny helicopter on the U.S. Capitol buildings lawn.
The mail carrier, 62-year-old Douglas Hughes, who lives just outside Tampa, announced at the end of 2015 that hes running to beat Wasserman Schultz. He already has the support of one of the nations most prominent academics, Harvard professor and former presidential candidate Lawrence Lessig.
You know, with everything Ive read that hes sent me, everything Ive seen him write, hes convinced me, Lessig told New Times, with the added caveat that the pair has never met in person. The only problem, of course, is that Hughes might end up in prison before the election.
Hughes, a thin, wiry man with a gray goatee, crash-landed into the American political scene on the wings of a one-man gyrocopter, which is little more than a folding chair with blades whirring at the top, like something Da Vinci would fly. In 2013, Hughes, who has no experience in politics, was trying to brainstorm ways in which he could get the entire country to pay attention to the corruptive power of money in politics. Hughes realized that a massive stunt could, in theory, get the entire world talking about money in politics, if only for a few hours. We thought, how can we deliver the message in a way thats dramatic? he asked. Once I saw a picture of a gyrocopter online, I thought, This is great, but who are we going to get to fly it?
He then realized he couldnt possibly ask someone else to get arrested on his behalf and sank around $25,000 into buying the chopper himself. He spent two years and more cash learning to fly it. I absolutely raided my retirement money from the Post Office, he says, adding that he sold an old WASR-10 rifle to raise money for the trip. So last April, he loaded the gyrocopter onto a car, drove up from Florida to Virginia, took to the skies, and landed directly outside the Capitol, letter in hand. Upon landing, the Secret Service immediately apprehended him. He is now fighting to avoid a potential ten-month stint in jail.
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Was it worth it? he asked. Heck yes. Do I need to be mentioned in the history books? No.
Lessig, who was unaware Hughes was planning on making his flight, later raised $10,000 on the crowdfunding site GoFundMe to help pay for Hughes legal defense.
On December 23, Hughes asked permission from the court to travel to South Florida, so he could, without warning, start a surprise run for Congress here. He says he intended to make a more formal announcement, but as people saw his candidacy in filings, word got out before he was ready. I regret very much that this whole thing has come out the way it has, he says.
He plans to run in District 23, a seat occupied by embattled Democratic National Committee Chair Wasserman Schultz. The decision to run in South Florida, rather than near his home in Ruskin, Florida (running in a district other than the one in which a candidate resides is legal at the federal level), appears to have little to do with the concerns of South Floridians and everything to do with the fact that Wasserman Schultz may be the most hated Democrat in Congress today.
I have been watching, as many people have, the way the Democratic National Committee favors Clinton over anybody else, he says, referencing the comparatively small number of presidential debates Wasserman Schultz has scheduled during this election season. Critics contend that Wasserman Schultz is a close political ally of Clintons and is working behind the scenes to undermine challenger Bernie Sanders by keeping him away from television. At the beginning of December, after the committee suspended the Sanders campaigns access to vital voter data, critics began calling for Wasserman Schultzs head. I agree with the phrase, They dont want a convention; they want a coronation, Hughes says. This isnt supposed to be the role of the Democratic Party. The role of the party is supposed to be neutral.
Hughes says he can ride the same sort of anti-establishment sentiment currently propelling Sanders toward the White House. Theres a rebellion going on on both sides, he says. I dont agree with the Tea Party on issues at all, but if you listen to those people, you hear them using a lot of the same rhetoric as progressives. He uses former House Minority Leader Eric Cantors ouster as an example after Tea Party voters became dissatisfied with Cantors ties to big-money politics, primary voters replaced him with a complete unknown, David Brat.
If this sounds like lunacy, it might not be Lessig actually agrees with Hughes here. Theres definitely a contingent of Democrats who are deeply frustrated with, particularly, how the presidential primary season has gone, Lessig says. I think Clinton is likely to be the nominee if so, Debbie Wasserman Schultz becomes a very powerful person. There is a frustration among Bernie Sanders supporters, and that could easily manifest itself in a targeted response. Once in office, Hughes plans to recruit "100 to 200" members of the House to fight to overturn Citizens United, but he does not seem to have a clear plan as to how.
For now, Hughes, who grew up in Santa Cruz, California, and moved to Florida after his first marriage collapsed around 1990, is still trying to get his head around South Florida politics. This is tough, considering he needs to clear any travel plans with the court. When stuck awaiting trial, he says he scrolls through New Times and the Sun Sentinel (which he repeatedly called the Sun). His next act of civil disobedience a 400-person march from Philadelphia to Washington, D.C. appears to have virtually no ties to anything Floridian.
Plus, things may become completely impossible if he is sentenced to jail time in April. (He can still legally run for federal office as a convicted criminal.)
Somehow, he isn't worried. If I am sent to jail in April and the max sentence is ten months, I can be out in time to be sworn in.
For more on Hughes, see doughughes2016.com/
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)It's a rule on DU to avoid copyright infringement. Thanks.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Nothing else matters to those who make the decisions. Her puppeteers are very pleased with her.
senz
(11,945 posts)People are people and will be judged as such.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)remark
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)between the general discontent with the DNC and her perceived thumb on the scale for Clinton (the perception is likely at least partially true of course).
Rahm, of course, wasn't DNC chair but your point is well taken nonetheless. Except Rahm's problem is ethical whereas DWS is just inept, imo.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)I don't think they would keep her in charge if she wasn't meeting their expectations. I my view, the system is rotten to the core. The DNC is controlled by big money and is not responsive to the Democratic grassroots.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Human sewage.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)us by the big banks and Wall Street.
senz
(11,945 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)I wonder who pays her more. HRH or the Republicans. It all comes out of the same Goldman trough.
libodem
(19,288 posts)Or Al Gore, maybe?
GoneOffShore
(17,341 posts)The truth is that Howard Dean was never a populist crusader and isn't one now. People from Vermont, who knew Dean before he was remade by Trippi, knew this as well as anyone. "Mention Howard Dean to the folks [in Vermont] who know him best, and they shake their heads in awe," said a 2003 article in The Philadelphia Inquirer that interviewed Vermonters about Dean's rise to national status. "They see him on TV, firing up the liberals, and they're dumbfounded, because they always knew him as a tightwad governor who spent 10 years excoriating liberals."
Indeed, as governor of Vermont, Dean was known for being a budget hawk who, according to Bloomberg, positioned himself "well to the right of many members of his own party." He told The New York Times in 2001 that he "made his mark as a fiscal conservative," and at times showed a lack of compassion for the poor.
libodem
(19,288 posts)Interesting.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)ancianita
(36,136 posts)Thank you for this OP.
benfranklin1776
(6,449 posts)Both are corporatist pseudodems killing the party from within. Having people like this in prominent positions is one of the reasons we never convincingly win over those suffering economic and civil rights deprivation. Kind of hard to motivate people to join your party and vote by covering up wanton police criminality and championing unilateral economic disarmament via the TPP. Both must go.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)Call the DNC and call for her ouster:
202 863 8000
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I mean, come on! Explain why granny needs to be put in supermax.