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Mitt Romneys anti-47% remarks were made at a fundraiser by Mark Leder in Boca Raton. Leder is known for his Hamptons sex parties.
His wild end-of-summer bash was the talk of the Hamptons this year, the Post reported last December. At the Bridgehampton home that Leder rented for a whopping $500,000 a month, guests cavorted nude in a pool and performed sex acts, while scantily clad Russian women danced on platforms. Dancers at the party also twirled flaming torches to booming beats.
http://www.alan.com/2012/09/17/romney-tape-came-from-estate-of-sex-party-throwing-hedge-fund-manager/
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)nt
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)He didn't do the speech at one of these parties, did he?
Because if not, who cares?
Llewlladdwr
(2,165 posts)Is someone having or attending a sex party shameful?
Why in the world is this even an issue?
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)does Romney have a person fundraising for him that is known for throwing sex parties.
Llewlladdwr
(2,165 posts)I was under the impression that one of the core beliefs of the Democratic party was that your sex life was nobody else's business. Am I wrong?
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)For example...
David Vitter
Anthony Weiner
Mark Sanford
and a hundred others.
I think that the news of Romney having a person that fundraisers for him that is known for sex parties IS NEWS,
considering he and the republican party are always spouting off about being the party of 'values'.
Llewlladdwr
(2,165 posts)And I didn't understand it then either. It almost seems some Democrats support a very selective right to privacy.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)I don't know what to say that would help you understand.
Have a great evening.
Llewlladdwr
(2,165 posts)I guess I'm just seeing something here that others aren't.
At any rate, good evening to you as well.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)You don't think David Vitter should be forced to resign when he runs his campaign on "family values" while visiting prostitutes?
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)The hypocritical rich Republicans think they can live by one set of rules while the lowly peasants have to live by another (which does not, I can tell you, allow for things like this.)
Llewlladdwr
(2,165 posts)Let the Reps talk about this if they wish. I thought Democrats supported a person's right to privacy regarding their sex life.
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)If a politician decides to be a hypocrite in telling everyone else they should act one way, then acting another way, that deserves to be exposed.
That same hypocrisy probably applies to their thinking of the law as president.
Llewlladdwr
(2,165 posts)If our stated position is that a person's sex life is private then isn't an attack based on someone's sex life hypocritical?
TroyD
(4,551 posts)As a general rule, someone's sex life is their own and is not relevant to most discussions.
However, the one exception to the general rule is when a politician or party that has engaged in discriminatory practices against others is caught acting hypocritically and in contradiction to their stated public positions.
I think what people above are pointing out is that the GOP is the party of 'family values' and the party that reprimands gay people and gay marriage as being wrong etc. and yet here we have another example of the Republican Party engaging in sexual behavior which is totally at odds with their supposed 'family values'.
And of course, the Republicans also have a lot of nerve criticizing celebrities in Hollywood for being promiscuous considering how much sleeping around they seem to do themselves.
That reminds me - was Newt Gingrich at this sex party?
Llewlladdwr
(2,165 posts)Yet somehow we get a pass when we use a person's sex life to attack them because the other side is bigger hypocrits, or something.
I give up.
TroyD
(4,551 posts)He will point out that for people like him and his partner (who got married in Canada a few years ago) they find it appalling and hypocritical to watch people in the Republican Party denouncing them as immoral etc. and then find out that on top of that the same people who want to deny them sexual liberation have no problem enjoying that same sexual liberation themselves.
Republicans never seem to have any trouble enjoying the benefits of the sexual revolution themselves, but what to deny those benefits to others. And people are sick of it. Especially gay people, women etc.
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)It's attacking their hypocrisy.
We're not saying the sex stuff is wrong. We're saying being hypocritical about what you tell others to do vs what you yourself do is wrong.
Cirque du So-What
(25,944 posts)given the number of times you've flagellated the deceased equine in a vain attempt to chastise democrats. See ya 'round!
Llewlladdwr
(2,165 posts)It's my personal opinion that saying "A person's sex life is private and should be off-limits for political attacks" when what you really mean is "A person's sex life is private and should be off-limits for political attacks, unless they do something I disagree with and then it's on like Donkey Kong" is a bit hypocritical.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)You don't see the conundrum there?
Comrade_McKenzie
(2,526 posts)If it works, then we should use it. If not, we shouldn't... but for no other reason.
agentS
(1,325 posts)First off, the guy hired RUSSIAN dancers!!! How dare he not hire AMERICANS???!!! Has he not seen Jersey Shore? We have PLENTY of women who will perform sex acts in pools and dance on platforms! This is ridiculous!!! He outsourced our floozie positions to Russia of all places!!! No wonder unemployment is 80%!
Second off, how come we don't have parties like this? Maybe that's the reason we're behind Romney in big-money donors (besides not being pro-Israel fanatics, nutcases, or overly greedy)! We need to bridge this gap with BETTER sexually explicit parties!
Though I admit these parties MIGHT offend the feminists... we have to bridge the missile/shelter... er, Playboy wanna-be gap!
Cleita
(75,480 posts)These are Russian prostitutes that are often enslaved by their pimps. I don't think white slavery is quite consenting adults. At the very least they are illegal. You approve of that? However, let's face it, they probably couldn't find any women who would freely consent to entertain a bunch of old, pot bellied, lecherous men.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)without looking into what is really going on. I don't believe this was between consenting adults like a swingers' party.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)Whiskeytide
(4,461 posts)... a tape of the sex party is going to be released?
mysuzuki2
(3,521 posts)My invitation must have been lost in the mail.