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NRaleighLiberal

(60,015 posts)
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 11:28 PM Sep 2012

Where Are the 47% of Americans Who Pay No Income Taxes?

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/09/where-are-the-47-of-americans-who-pay-no-income-taxes/262499/

"The horserace implications of this statement are what the chattering class is chattering about. Unfortunately, they're also unknowable at this point. On the one hand, it's always a bad idea to disparage voters (see: Obama, Barack and clinging to guns and religion), and the soundbite helps to cement the idea that Romney is out of touch with the average American -- clearly, he's not trying to connect with nearly half of them! On the other hand, Romney is disparaging folks whose votes he's already written off.

So let's set that speculation aside and look at who the people are who actually pay no income tax. Romney's statements are a little unclear, but it appears that the 47 percent figure represents all of those who pay no income tax, rather than the Democratic base. His problem is that those people are disproportionately in red states -- that is, states that tend to vote Republican:

Map at the link....surprise, surprise!
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Where Are the 47% of Americans Who Pay No Income Taxes? (Original Post) NRaleighLiberal Sep 2012 OP
I know. Now try to convince his base of that. PDJane Sep 2012 #1
Yep, typical base will say, "Well, if that's what YOU want to think." Most are RKP5637 Sep 2012 #3
Can they read? All Americans Pay Taxes Ellipsis Sep 2012 #4
Yep, funny how the republicans always gloss over that little fact. n/t RKP5637 Sep 2012 #2
Excellent. BlueStreak Sep 2012 #5
Just got off the phone with some friends who have generally leaned GOP, Teabagger, etc. freshwest Sep 2012 #7
Does anyone else think it's very bizarre... CoffeeCat Sep 2012 #6

Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
4. Can they read? All Americans Pay Taxes
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 11:33 PM
Sep 2012

Conservative pundits and media outlets have seized upon an estimate that 47 percent of taxpayers owe no federal income tax for 2009. This statistic has morphed into the claim by conservatives that “47 percent of all Americans don’t pay any taxes.” The conservative pundits are wrong. It’s true that many taxpayers don’t pay federal income taxes, but they still pay federal payroll taxes (and some federal excise taxes) and also pay state and local taxes. Most of these other taxes are regressive, meaning they take a larger share of a poor or middle-class family’s income than they take from a rich family.

Read the report.

http://ctj.org/ctjreports/2010/04/all_americans_pay_taxes.php
 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
5. Excellent.
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 11:49 PM
Sep 2012

Most of those red states are going to go Romney. However, Obama ought to be able to use this to their advantage in FL, GA, and NM.

"Pssst. Yeah, I'm talking to you, Bubba. Do you know what that Yankee Mitt Romney is saying 'bout y'all?"

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
7. Just got off the phone with some friends who have generally leaned GOP, Teabagger, etc.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 12:13 AM
Sep 2012

I'm not sure how they heard of this today, but they wanted to know if Romney was born rich -- really wanted to know, because they were enraged. I gave them some facts and there is no way they are going to vote for Romney now, even though they'd been sour on Obama, because they've heard so many negative stories and they watch Fox. They're in Texas and were excited about the latino mayor of San Antonio at the DNC. And this settled it for them.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
6. Does anyone else think it's very bizarre...
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 11:57 PM
Sep 2012

...that this elitist punk is wrist-slapping people for not paying taxes--when he refuses to release his own tax returns?

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