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yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 02:51 PM Sep 2012

At what point do Romney voters lose heart and stay home?

I really think this could be the sleeper part of the electoral equation which could knock Romney right out of the race in a number of close red states and trigger a major wave/landslide election, with large repercussions on House and Senate races.

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At what point do Romney voters lose heart and stay home? (Original Post) yellowcanine Sep 2012 OP
Romney voter's have hearts?? C_U_L8R Sep 2012 #1
My wifes crazy Aunt does..... Flashmann Sep 2012 #4
Most Romney voters are really anti-Obama voters andym Sep 2012 #2
In several states it would not take many to shift the state to Obama. yellowcanine Sep 2012 #5
There has been speculation in NC that the black churches might have difficulty ncgrits Sep 2012 #9
From my observations they are either ABO (Anyone But Obama) or OMG (Obama Must Go) voters. Arkansas Granny Sep 2012 #6
Exactly. hamsterjill Sep 2012 #8
I am not sure that holds up historically for presidential elections. yellowcanine Sep 2012 #10
But they have to vote. I agree that once they are in the voting booth an anti-Obama voter yellowcanine Sep 2012 #11
When he loses the first debate. k2qb3 Sep 2012 #3
I wonder if his gaffs has a much effect on them as we wish it would. Speck Tater Sep 2012 #7
Don't count on it demokatgurrl Sep 2012 #12
They aren't Romney voters, they are hate Obama voters. MrSlayer Sep 2012 #13
A lot of people didn't like Bush either in 2004 but he still won reelection. yellowcanine Sep 2012 #14
Yeah, and? MrSlayer Sep 2012 #16
My point is that dislike of an incumbent President doesn't motivate enough people to defeat him. yellowcanine Sep 2012 #18
Last March? nt bemildred Sep 2012 #15
Their hatred for having Obama McBlackMan as POTUS will carry them to the polls.n/t Lil Missy Sep 2012 #17
This is why I hammer Romney on my FB page. renie408 Sep 2012 #19
Yesterday, hopefully... n/t K Gardner Sep 2012 #20
Well, considering Romney is still in contention, I don't think we've reached that point yet TroyD Sep 2012 #21

Flashmann

(2,140 posts)
4. My wifes crazy Aunt does.....
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 02:58 PM
Sep 2012

Not much on brainpower though.......Big heart,but misplaced...Small,VERY small mind.....

andym

(5,444 posts)
2. Most Romney voters are really anti-Obama voters
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 02:54 PM
Sep 2012

and they appear to be quite motivated -- whipped up into a frenzy by Fox and talk radio.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
5. In several states it would not take many to shift the state to Obama.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 03:00 PM
Sep 2012

I am thinking of states like Indiana and N. Carolina, both of which Obama narrowly won last time. And I think some of the anti-Obama sentiment is actually quite soft. Most people like Obama and most people dislike Romney. In a close race this could come into play.

ncgrits

(916 posts)
9. There has been speculation in NC that the black churches might have difficulty
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 03:06 PM
Sep 2012

with encouraging members to vote for Obama this time around because of his support of gay marriage. But I'm hopeful that the revelation of Romney's craven attitude regarding the "47%" may change some minds back to supporting the President.

NC is still in play.

Arkansas Granny

(31,519 posts)
6. From my observations they are either ABO (Anyone But Obama) or OMG (Obama Must Go) voters.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 03:03 PM
Sep 2012

I have yet to see a Romney/Ryan yard sign or bumpersticker and I'm in a very red state.

hamsterjill

(15,222 posts)
8. Exactly.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 03:05 PM
Sep 2012

That's what I find most prevalent here in Texas. They are not going to vote FOR Romney; they are going to vote AGAINST Obama.

While I like that Mitt is constantly sticking his foot into his own ass, I will be cautiously optimistic until the day after the election.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
10. I am not sure that holds up historically for presidential elections.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 03:12 PM
Sep 2012

I can't think of a presidential election in my lifetime where voting against an incumbent was enough. Even the 1980 election was very close until the debates at which point a significant number of voters decided they could vote for Reagan.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
11. But they have to vote. I agree that once they are in the voting booth an anti-Obama voter
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 03:15 PM
Sep 2012

will vote for Romney but I am not convinced it will be enough motivation to get a significant number of them to the polls in the first place.

 

k2qb3

(374 posts)
3. When he loses the first debate.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 02:55 PM
Sep 2012

It's been my opinion for a while now we're seeing 1996 play out again, with Johnson playing the role of Perot.

As soon as the right believes he isn't going to win his numbers will tank.

 

Speck Tater

(10,618 posts)
7. I wonder if his gaffs has a much effect on them as we wish it would.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 03:04 PM
Sep 2012

All I've been hearing from the right is "well, Obama said a lot of mean things too when he thought nobody was listening." or words to that effect. They don't hear what Romney said. Instead, they make excuses for him or play the "both side do it" card. Some people are so far brain washed that nothing will sway them anymore.

demokatgurrl

(3,931 posts)
12. Don't count on it
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 03:17 PM
Sep 2012

To be honest my fear is that Obama voters get too complacent and stay home. We can't afford that with all the Republican dirty tricks. IT IS NOT OVER.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
14. A lot of people didn't like Bush either in 2004 but he still won reelection.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 03:31 PM
Sep 2012

And more people actually find Obama likable than they ever did Bush.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
16. Yeah, and?
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 03:44 PM
Sep 2012


My point was that Mitt isn't really even a factor in the election for a lot of people. He could literally be anyone. So his endless lies and gaffes won't make a bit of difference as to whether or not people vote. They hate Obana so they'll come out.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
18. My point is that dislike of an incumbent President doesn't motivate enough people to defeat him.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 03:49 PM
Sep 2012

Another way of saying you can't beat somebody with nobody. People really hated Bush in 2004 but not enough people liked Kerry to defeat Bush. I would maintain that the actual hate of Bush was higher in 2004 than the hate for Obama this year. In fact, a large majority of voters like Obama more than they like Romney. The haters are basically the hard core Republican base. That is it and it is not nearly enough.

renie408

(9,854 posts)
19. This is why I hammer Romney on my FB page.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 03:53 PM
Sep 2012

I have managed to change the minds of at least three people I know of and I am hoping that I can make Romney look SO bad that some will just stay home.

Of course, my biggest ally in this is Romney himself.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
21. Well, considering Romney is still in contention, I don't think we've reached that point yet
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 04:28 PM
Sep 2012

Let's not get ahead ourselves.

Obama only has a 1-point lead in Gallup today.

Romney has actually gone UP over the past week.

We need to see whether these latest scandals have an effect before we assume he is out.

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