2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAt what point do Romney voters lose heart and stay home?
I really think this could be the sleeper part of the electoral equation which could knock Romney right out of the race in a number of close red states and trigger a major wave/landslide election, with large repercussions on House and Senate races.
C_U_L8R
(45,003 posts)just askin'
Flashmann
(2,140 posts)Not much on brainpower though.......Big heart,but misplaced...Small,VERY small mind.....
andym
(5,444 posts)and they appear to be quite motivated -- whipped up into a frenzy by Fox and talk radio.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)I am thinking of states like Indiana and N. Carolina, both of which Obama narrowly won last time. And I think some of the anti-Obama sentiment is actually quite soft. Most people like Obama and most people dislike Romney. In a close race this could come into play.
ncgrits
(916 posts)with encouraging members to vote for Obama this time around because of his support of gay marriage. But I'm hopeful that the revelation of Romney's craven attitude regarding the "47%" may change some minds back to supporting the President.
NC is still in play.
Arkansas Granny
(31,519 posts)I have yet to see a Romney/Ryan yard sign or bumpersticker and I'm in a very red state.
hamsterjill
(15,222 posts)That's what I find most prevalent here in Texas. They are not going to vote FOR Romney; they are going to vote AGAINST Obama.
While I like that Mitt is constantly sticking his foot into his own ass, I will be cautiously optimistic until the day after the election.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)I can't think of a presidential election in my lifetime where voting against an incumbent was enough. Even the 1980 election was very close until the debates at which point a significant number of voters decided they could vote for Reagan.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)will vote for Romney but I am not convinced it will be enough motivation to get a significant number of them to the polls in the first place.
k2qb3
(374 posts)It's been my opinion for a while now we're seeing 1996 play out again, with Johnson playing the role of Perot.
As soon as the right believes he isn't going to win his numbers will tank.
Speck Tater
(10,618 posts)All I've been hearing from the right is "well, Obama said a lot of mean things too when he thought nobody was listening." or words to that effect. They don't hear what Romney said. Instead, they make excuses for him or play the "both side do it" card. Some people are so far brain washed that nothing will sway them anymore.
demokatgurrl
(3,931 posts)To be honest my fear is that Obama voters get too complacent and stay home. We can't afford that with all the Republican dirty tricks. IT IS NOT OVER.
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)No one likes Romney.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)And more people actually find Obama likable than they ever did Bush.
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)My point was that Mitt isn't really even a factor in the election for a lot of people. He could literally be anyone. So his endless lies and gaffes won't make a bit of difference as to whether or not people vote. They hate Obana so they'll come out.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)Another way of saying you can't beat somebody with nobody. People really hated Bush in 2004 but not enough people liked Kerry to defeat Bush. I would maintain that the actual hate of Bush was higher in 2004 than the hate for Obama this year. In fact, a large majority of voters like Obama more than they like Romney. The haters are basically the hard core Republican base. That is it and it is not nearly enough.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)renie408
(9,854 posts)I have managed to change the minds of at least three people I know of and I am hoping that I can make Romney look SO bad that some will just stay home.
Of course, my biggest ally in this is Romney himself.
K Gardner
(14,933 posts)TroyD
(4,551 posts)Let's not get ahead ourselves.
Obama only has a 1-point lead in Gallup today.
Romney has actually gone UP over the past week.
We need to see whether these latest scandals have an effect before we assume he is out.