in the first place. You would think that they would want to get rid of the burden of every year facing major decisions regarding health insurance for their employees.

It would be much easier for all involved for the individual employee to deal with that decision if it was a single payer/universal system or medicare for all.

I would think it would be easier for the Providers (MD's, Hospitals, etc) to deal with only one insurance carrier rather than dealing with multiple insurance companies that all have their own rules and forms. It is a headache for a Provider to deal with insurance as well. Right now they have to hire a firm to handle the insurance issues or hire a number of people in their practice to deal with just the insurance issues. They would save a lot of money and headaches if we had a universal system. One form to get familiar with and one carrier to deal with. Much easier. Much more efficient. Cheaper and will save money all the way around.

They've got it, we don't.

And the insurance companies were actually happier being able to gouge people pretty much at will, to not have to cover pre-existing conditions, to not have to meet minimum payout requirements, to be able to cap lifetime payments in case you somehow managed to get seriously ill while covered by their insurance policy, to kick your kids off at 18, to not cover a whole bunch of stuff they now have to cover so they could sell fraudulent "low cost" policies to suckers. But you know rofl or whatever. The article you posted is dubious crap.

Oh the arguments I remember here

Not saying it's wrong. But some fishy stuff, that I'm curious to look further into.

My understanding at this point is that the ACA being a big gift to insurance is more myth than reality. Some major providers have recently pulled out of the exchanges, which would not be happening if they were so "high on the hog".

For sure, health care is way too expensive. But most of that -seems- to be with the providers, not the insurers.

Just saying, look at it critically, don't assume based on popular memes.

My 300 person non profit is getting killed. It will keep getting worse until for profit healthcare is against the law.

It is helping the small business I work for. We only have 20-25 employees at any given time so it is exempt from the law. I have my coverage through Healthcare.gov but I did have it through my employer prior to the law being passed.

I now have better coverage for less money and my employer no longer contributes to my premiums (which he was before the law passed). Also the owner is saving a couple hundred bucks a month on his family's coverage which now includes coverage for the two kids he has in college.


I don't know exactly how these people are defining small business, but I bet is isn't what you think it is.

before the conservatives took over health care policy there were non-profit insurance cooperatives and organizations.