and for whatever reason, they want to offend women that much.

so when they shrug and say it is not that big a deal, or not an insult or slur to women, that is a flat out lie. they know better. it isnt a tough one. it doesnt take a genius. the sole purpose is to insult women in the most vile way they can with a single word.

no more. or no less.

in the same manner a person chooses to use the n word. in the same manner a person chooses to use the f word.

to insult.

WHY this word needs to be used.

Ridiculous posters that are all into "banned" words bullshit. It's sad an annoying!

Thanks Sea, very unhappy but happy that someone was FINALLY banned for such shit! It's about time!

There are a lot of men out there for so many reason, a lot culturally, that really are angry or do not like us. Most of our culture continually tells all of us the zillions of reason to not think much of women. So for there to be a good number of men that feel we are less is not surprising. And what happens to the man that has always been taught us women are inferior and we dare to not pay any attention to societal demand of the role we are taught. We question, we speak out, we become successful and independent. We are not following the rules. Wecare not suppose to be all that.

Ok, ranting.

I hear you. It's just weird to me that there are some PROGRESSIVE people that just cannot understand that the word is a SLUR. It's a SLUR against Women. Period.

Ugh. It's just so very surprising to see Du'ers agree with that shit!

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Misogyny is not a political party issue. It is a male issue across the board. There certainly are more progressive men that get it, but I know a hell of a lot of conservative men that are justcas respectful to women. I really do not see sexism with only one party.

But do not kid yourself. The men using it know exactly how hurtful it is to women and that is thecreason they choose that word. Purposely.

being compared to a woman as the ultimate insult lets women know where we stand with them. They see us as less than them. It is disgusting. I have seen the same that you mention. It doesn't matter if a guy is a liberal or a conservative, they can either be rude to women or polite to women either way. Political parties don't automatically mean someone is or is not going to be derogatory toward women. The individual man decides for himself whether he wants to go around being misogynist or not. Far too many are still incredibly misogynist and they think it is ok. It is not.

possible and flaunt their apparent immunity.

but C**T should get you booted. There's no excuse for that, period.

get ready for the " ohhhh... i said the word" assholes.

It's a godamned slur...period! UGH!

I agree with you!

in the English language.

I had never had anyone use the word around me and it was only a couple weeks ago someone used it on du and we had a conversation about that word. I learner it was right up there with the c word. But I had probably not heardvit but a couple times in my life.

I feel so ignorant. Guess I'm lucky to have missed one offensive word.

and thinking the poster is referring to twat.

There is no context where it is appropriate.

That one there is really taking their chances, as Skinner stated.

To come into a group for feminists and type that out, is beyond the pale.

Maybe a thank you for the hide Jury thread in Meta would be helpful? no???

GOOD.

Valerief. This word is NOT permitted. No tolerance. From now on. Thank you JURY!

it was in the privacy of my own home, and nobody but me and my cats are present. I was expressing displeasure at my psycho Russian neighbor who never fails to stand on her balcony not 25 feet from my balcony and yell on her cell phone all morning, noon, and night. She couldn't hear me as I muttered it under my breath as I was forced, once again, to close my door on this lovely evening instead of enjoying the fresh air.

There's a long backstory with this woman that has caused me to dub her The F-----g C--t Over There. But nobody else ever hears me use it.

genuinely have earned the name IMHO. Doesn't make me a bad person.

I don't like it when people say that particular word cannot be used. It has its place, as do many others.

doesnt matter how mad i am. it doesnt come into my head at all.

but, i figured you were saying that it is a word you use in private, and not one that is a public used word, lol.

That's one thing that disturbs me so much about gender slurs is that I believe most often it's women using them for frequently and the worst of them themselves toward other women. Of course, women have bought into and propagate their own misogyny since time began (how else could it have continued for centuries?). But aren't we supposed to be enlightened enough at this point to understand that and not buy into it anymore? You'd think it was common sense to not even have the desire to use a slur against someone that is equally insulting and helps to encourage putting your own self down.

In truth, the only time I've ever heard the c-word used in person it was thrown out by a woman toward another woman. Maybe that's why my own personal visceral reaction to that word is not as strong as the b-word because it's the b-word that as long as I can even remember has been so frequently used and so frequently against me personally more times than I could possibly count by both men and women. To me, it is the most common and most frequently used slurs against women that piss me off the most BECAUSE they are so commonly and frequently used that even women have bought into the acceptability of their use. NO gender slur is acceptable. NO gender slur is "not that bad". And NO gender slur should ever be used by a woman against another women since it just continues the centuries of women buying into their own gender's misogyny thus contributing to keeping women down and unequal to men. Misogyny will NEVER end until ALL women stop accepting it in ALL it's ugly forms.

And I REALLY hate the word "misogyny" because try as I might I can never remember how to spell it!

make one's life totally MISERABLE:

1. An insanely mean boss.

2. A horrible neighbor.

I'm going through the same thing....but I was threatened w/ physical violence so I filed 2 police reports. But neighbors are still there. The dude said he was 'going to get rid of me.' First time was 'I'm going to beat the hell out of you.' He's such an asshat...he parks in the 'Handicap Space.' Real self-entitled. All because I asked them to turn down the stereo after midnight on a week night.

I'm not moving. And I have a permit. I got tired about worrying what these redneck asshats are going to do.

is proof positive that it is an issue on DU. There have been many more that didn't make the front page, so to say.

And it all started back in January of 2012. Some were quite clairvoyant back then about how it might turn out.

They have been proven correct. I remember you speaking out back then Texasgal!

When you had to have actual rules consistently applied to keep bigotry off DU it meant that it was well-known that plenty of people here have no problem with bigotry. It was OBVIOUS as the nose on one's face that getting rid of those rules and letting the community (including all the bigots) decide what was ok and what wasn't that there was going to be a ton of bigotry on DU. Shame that people here think it's far more important to ban the spammers selling designer jeans and sunglasses then to ban the bigots and that the Admin not only set it up that way but is doing nothing about it.

Bigotry is a TOS violation, but obviously nobody that can do anything about it gives a shit because it's all over the place on DU anymore. DU3 hasn't been up and running for even a year yet, and already people are testing how far they can push the bigotry now going so far as to push the envelope on the most vile of bigoted remarks. And of COURSE the misogynist crap was going to be the first tested and most ignored... after all, Admins use to have no problem at all with people constantly using "b*tch" and it's vile cousin "b*tch-sl*pped (I can't even bring myself to type those slurs out completely) and we had to ARGUE with Admin that they were obvious gender slurs that shouldn't be allowed here. That argument was finally won (though it never should have needed to be made in the first place!), yet here we are again not only back to having to accept that shit here but the even more gross gender slurs that nobody would have dared using on DU2. Hell, now we have the let-all-your-bigotry-hang-out brigade that never ignores the chance to MOCK those of us that hate this bigoted slime calling us "Word Police" advocating that there is nothing too offensive for DU and that it should fall to the depraved and hateful depths of YouTube or Yahoo comment sections. And it will. Not even a year out and just look at all the bigoted shit, drama, and totally uncivil behavior DU has sunk to already. The only thing know I wasn't clairvoyant about was just how ugly DU would become and how quickly.

Edgy, contemporary, sneering at conventional conventions. Using words as instruments of enlightenment, education, edification.





What they're actually doing is the equivalent of is Getting back at Mommy.

Now I have to say, I can swear. I mean, for reals. But I don't go out of my way to offend people, I just don't see the point. That's because there isn't one.

That 'equivalent' part was quite deliberate.

of normalizing and internalizing misogyny for the current generation.

And I have started challenging other people in real life to rethink their use of words like "bitch".

I always use ovaries.


I also started using asshole during the Sarah Palin deal. I really really was pissed I even had to listen to her, my best stock of name calling swear words had too many gender oriented ones that I didn't want to use. To successfully use as wear word for emphasis, the trick is not to use too many at once.

I found 'asshole' satisfied.

Not swearing at all is an option, but an unattractive one for me. I love words, including salty language.

treat to practice on. asshole was a top word. vile also. stupid top on the list. lol

& realized that the male equivalents of the feminine slurs are equally offensive. It doesn't feel that way in our society, but they are.

I love language. It's so powerful. A lot of people don't think about how words shape our views & how that makes them so powerful. Having a media, who's only goal is profit, in control of so much of the cultural message is dangerous. We're seeing the results.

Salty language -- I have not heard that phrase in a long, long time!

Running through Meta posting snarky comment after snarky comment, just dying to goad someone into a fight.

It is the very definition of "trolling".

continuous misrepresentation what is said, the re writing of history, .... more posters are calling them out. more posters are seeing the same small group making their demands to be misogynist. more posters are challenging.

so i really felt more up, than depressed, from what i saw.

I need to stop taking the bait.

Those little innuendos that you're the alerter. I think it's because you're scrappy and just take 'em on verbally. Perhaps they can't imagine a women who argues without backup.

I don't alert nearly enough probably. I never use the ignore function but I do ignore, if you know what I mean.

Sometimes I try to get a mental picture of certain posters, not what they look like, but why they think like they do. I used to entertain myself by assigning certain personality disorders to them, or life experiences, or plain old insecurities.
I think I was wrong more often than not, except for the ones so glaringly messed up, I knew I was dealing more than just an opposite opinion.

truly is amazing. i learned a long long time ago to ask. not assume. cause i really do not like looking stupid. i guess others are not bothered with that. ah well.... lol.

i also do as you. i also pass every test with high marks looking at eyes and gauging emotion. i LOVE that test. but, i read posts all the time, mostly not replying, just listening. i listen a lot. adn there is a lot ot pick up on. a lot of the thoughts i develop of a character bares? bears? nah, bares out later on du with a personal story here and there.

that is really what my experience on du is all about. i LOVE people, as i am a self imposed isolationist cause i hate being around people, lol. and the net gives me a wonderful opportunity to interact, without interacting, lol.

a life of contradictions.

Why wouldn't it earn an immediate tombstone is a better question. I can't believe anyone over the age of 12 doesn't know how incredibly offensive such words are. Their choice to use such language is incompatible with democratic principles. A Pizza should be automatic in such case, IMNSHO.

having raised kids... i understand how well a well defined line works on tempering behavior, lol.

i understand after one poster repeatedly use the p word, that he was just having a bit of temper tantrum, and now is all better, so.... meh.

ya know.

This is BLATANT misogyny!

Auto tombstone for anyone that should use that slur!

do you ever take note, how your threads always get so many replies and conversations. since you started in the forum, way back when it was the other group. good for you.

I do read this forum everyday though and I appreciate the content that you all have posted. This is the best group on DU in my opinion!

Thanks to all for keeping this forum alive!

I think the use of that term calls for an automatic ban, now.
I think the precedent has finally been made, and the issue of using that specific term is not lying around in some "gray area" waiting for a final decision to be made about the use of that particular term anymore.

The only thing we can do now is to be diligent and alert on the term when we see it being used. And hope that a jury with 4 liberals will hide it so that the post is sent to the admins for them to act upon it.