History of Feminism
Related: About this forumcomic artists remorse, "what terrifies me now is that at the moment it felt so natural"
before i was on tumblr i was your average cookie cutter wannabe pro artist and knew nothing about nothing, the whole social justice (i hate calling it that because its really just basic morals) thing. I know some of you might remember my mlp superheroine series let me say that this is probably the thing that I have drawn that I am most ashamed of ever. While on deviantART the reception of this was great, on tumblr it wasnt so much and at first it made me angry that people didnt like it. I never replied it but I thought things like dont like it dont look at it or fuq u i draw what i want draw ur own then lol but the message these people were trying to get across to me never really GOT across to me until months later.
Yes there is a lot of things wrong with that series, I stripped my favorite characters off of their very own personalities to make them into your cookie cutter white able bodied babe comic book females. And what terrifies me now is that at the moment it felt so natural, I drew them almost unthinkingly, just one after the other, the way my brain was used to drawing girls, because as an artist, by comic books I was taught this is what girls look like in comic books. I never once thought of making them POC or chubbier, or not able bodied, or trans*, or just making them be REAL girls for christ sake. The thought never crossed my mind at all and it really turns my stomach how brainwashed I was because I am a poc myself, yet I neglected making any of them a poc. It was almost automatic to me that when the idea came to me to make them superheroes was cookie cutter girls.
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I was even posted on eschergirls, and at first when I read the post I felt angry and attacked, especially at the comments, but then I realized they were right. They were right to feel hurt and tired of the same old thing. And for that I apologize deeply from the bottom of my heart.
So to all those people that tell other sjb that theyre not gonna change anything let me tell you that I for one have to disagree, because its changed me, and while I am the same artist that drew those humanizations, I promise you I am not the same person. And to all the artists who feel victimized or attacked by a critique, try to look past the anger (if critique is worded angrily), and try to read what the person was really trying to say. Sure its true that people should be considerate to artists, but I also think as artists weve got to know how powerful art is and how it affects the people that see it.
http://milkydayy.tumblr.com/post/32637144825/hey-this-is-gonna-be-a-little-rant-post-its-just
http://eschergirls.tumblr.com/
again. speaking out works. it matters. seems to be my theme today. i guess i get pissed when people tell me to shut the fuck up. lol.
ismnotwasm
(42,008 posts)I'm a bit of an artist, and my favorite female form to draw is Kali. I sketch and doodle, I have talent but not an incredible amount. I've seen some wicked badass renditions of Kali though. I working on one right now-an idea I copied from a different artist (since this is for myself) Kali is less messy, but no less menacing.
Never would they sell in the comic world.
Good for this artist. Everyone has the right to change.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)i hope all is ok.
anyway, lets see a picture. i wanna see, lol.
Shivering Jemmy
(900 posts)ismnotwasm
(42,008 posts)Thank you
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)dont know why the link did not work.
they have been changing google image up and i do not like the change.
thanks
i see an OP soon, lol
Shivering Jemmy
(900 posts)Are My Little Pony characters.
I don't think I will ever get internet subcultures.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)There are more important things...
You're hurting the cause...
I'm not like that/not all men are like that...
I've never seen that...
It doesn't bother me...
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)redqueen
(115,103 posts)to try to justify telling women to STFU about misogyny.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)my hubby and kids know better. oh, and my brothers, father and nephews.
oh and nieces, too.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)As bugfuck annoying as they are, it is as if their incessant efforts to shut women up seems to be actually backfiring on them.
With more and more women, and more and more girls getting to the point of being fed up with all this myriad "lighthearted" or "petty" or "meaningless" sexist and misogynist bullshit...
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)MadrasT
(7,237 posts)now speaking up about misogyny means we think, er... (near as I can interpret) all women are "weak" because we don't want to just let it roll off our backs
or some such nonsense
The "logic" of that is baffling.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)with the claim that any attempt to offer assistance to women who are trying to exit 'the life' (prostitution) means you are "infantilizing" all sex workers.
progressoid
(49,999 posts)I'd believe it more if he stopped selling posters and t-shirts etc with those images.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)progressoid
(49,999 posts)I assume this is his: http://society6.com/milkydayy/framed-prints
Although, this stuff does seem a little better: http://milkydayy.tumblr.com/tagged/milkyart
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Shivering Jemmy
(900 posts)or is it enough if he sells a range of items expressing a variety of modes of beauty, from the conventional to those items that push the boundaries of convention?
I don't have an answer. I don't like art. I like stories. Art subserves a story, and if it helps me visualize a story it's generally ok. I don't understand the need to draw or make pictures of things myself (without a story to accompany it). The things are there, or are in your memory. Why make an image?
But I know my brain is a bit different from other people. So I'm told, constantly.