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boston bean

(36,221 posts)
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 08:45 PM Feb 2013

Why Gender Equality Stalled

THIS week is the 50th anniversary of the publication of Betty Friedan’s international best seller, “The Feminine Mystique,” which has been widely credited with igniting the women’s movement of the 1960s. Readers who return to this feminist classic today are often puzzled by the absence of concrete political proposals to change the status of women. But “The Feminine Mystique” had the impact it did because it focused on transforming women’s personal consciousness.

In 1963, most Americans did not yet believe that gender equality was possible or even desirable. Conventional wisdom held that a woman could not pursue a career and still be a fulfilled wife or successful mother. Normal women, psychiatrists proclaimed, renounced all aspirations outside the home to meet their feminine need for dependence. In 1962, more than two-thirds of the women surveyed by University of Michigan researchers agreed that most important family decisions “should be made by the man of the house.”

It was in this context that Friedan set out to transform the attitudes of women. Arguing that “the personal is political,” feminists urged women to challenge the assumption, at work and at home, that women should always be the ones who make the coffee, watch over the children, pick up after men and serve the meals.

Over the next 30 years this emphasis on equalizing gender roles at home as well as at work produced a revolutionary transformation in Americans’ attitudes. It was not instant. As late as 1977, two-thirds of Americans believed that it was “much better for everyone involved if the man is the achiever outside the home and the woman takes care of the home and family.” By 1994, two-thirds of Americans rejected this notion.


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/17/opinion/sunday/why-gender-equality-stalled.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Long article, but well worth the read. It shows beyond a shadow of a doubt, why every progressive/liberal/democrat ought to support feminists and feminists ideals.
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Curious2

(3 posts)
2. Why Gender Equality Stalled
Sun Feb 17, 2013, 05:31 AM
Feb 2013

What has changed over the past 50 years that's made the world a better place, safer place and more productive place? Shouldn't we be asking... RIGHTS, PRIVILEGE, LICENSE are equal across GENDER lines? Allow us to start the discussion from the beginning not the middle. So if equal rights is the issue, do we determine that from a masculine point or feminine point of view and WHO DECIDES? Wouldn't it be "more fair" if the title were gender-ism and NOT feminism or for that matter non-isms. Just men and women doin what men and women do? We all know that we can't move forward on the squares until a consensus is agreed upon, "who's on top tonight"? Simply put, isn't that the issue, the next generation? If we are not in it for the kids, then what are we in it for? The career, the big paying job, the vacation... how about the retirement? Maybe we are in it for a political appointment... being those folks are never elected. Maybe we are in it to lobby for what ever our cause is, I don't know, does anybody KNOW? Maybe if we start from gender instead of, she said, he said, the statistics PROVE, yada yada yada etc etc etc.... Yawn!!!! I'm a player and I'm a guy. Can ya imagine that, now if I can only figure out which head I'm thinking with... hmmm... the one above the neck or the one below? Come on gals you know that's funny stuff. Lets lighten the load.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
4. what a stupid post. as you insist we walk away from gender to "non-ism" you have to throw out the
Sun Feb 17, 2013, 09:55 AM
Feb 2013

gender crap.

oh, look, i am a man, i have sex, yada yada yada. you are right. a huge ass yawn. it is not as if we do not have men continually identifying their worth to the bighead/little head crap all the fuckin time.

just grow up.

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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
3. Wow, really nailed it here, about so many issues.
Sun Feb 17, 2013, 09:34 AM
Feb 2013
This is where the political gets really personal. When people are forced to behave in ways that contradict their ideals, they often undergo what sociologists call a “values stretch” — watering down their original expectations and goals to accommodate the things they have to do to get by. This behavior is especially likely if holding on to the original values would exacerbate tensions in the relationships they depend on.

In their years of helping couples make the transition from partners to parents, the psychologists Philip and Carolyn Cowan have found that tensions increase when a couple backslide into more traditional roles than they originally desired. The woman resents that she is not getting the shared child care she expected and envies her husband’s social networks outside the home. The husband feels hurt that his wife isn’t more grateful for the sacrifices he is making by working more hours so she can stay home. When you can’t change what’s bothering you, one typical response is to convince yourself that it doesn’t actually bother you.

ismnotwasm

(41,989 posts)
6. This stuck out to me
Sun Feb 17, 2013, 10:04 AM
Feb 2013
Meanwhile, since 1990 other nations with comparable resources have implemented a comprehensive agenda of “work-family reconciliation” acts. As a result, when the United States’ work-family policies are compared with those of countries at similar levels of economic and political development, the United States comes in dead last.

Out of nearly 200 countries studied by Jody Heymann, dean of the school of public health at the University of California, Los Angeles, and her team of researchers for their new book, “Children’s Chances,” 180 now offer guaranteed paid leave to new mothers, and 81 offer paid leave to fathers. They found that 175 mandate paid annual leave for workers, and 162 limit the maximum length of the workweek. The United States offers none of these protections.

A 1997 European Union directive prohibits employers from paying part-time workers lower hourly rates than full-time workers, excluding them from pension plans or limiting paid leaves to full-time workers. By contrast, American workers who reduce hours for family reasons typically lose their benefits and take an hourly wage cut.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
7. i am so having this issue right now and for the last couple years. and here it is time for me
Sun Feb 17, 2013, 10:05 AM
Feb 2013

to get back into the work force. and further, i need to. but, way back when i didnt not do a whole lot of thinking into 20 yrs forward. my age and two decades out of the work force and the options now. true, the economy is totally fucked up.

we really cannot have it all. and we make choices. none of them ideal unless we are the top whatever percent.

and the economy and wage is just so different today than just a decade ago.

i can tell you, if i was working hubby would not be able to have the freedom and flexibility he has. and he puts in massive hours after hours because he is computer and can do a lot of it at home. going out of town. most of the parenting would have fallen on me even if i was at work.

but, when choosing to make life easier for all in the family, it leave very little two decades later.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
8. Unfortunately the article is entirely clueless
Sun Feb 17, 2013, 06:54 PM
Feb 2013

Feminism didn't predict the rise of neoliberal economic theory, which undermines EVERY movement toward equality in order to benefit the tiny elite.

The problem in a nutshell is class warfare, not sexism.

Stephanie Coontz sounds totally clueless and in a time warp. Few people truly care about pet issues like job sharing, paid maternity leave, and other ideas palatable for the tiny number of elite women when millions upon millions of people are unemployed, underemployed, had their retirement savings completely wiped out, and so on.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
9. What makes you think there is only one problem?
Sun Feb 17, 2013, 08:02 PM
Feb 2013

There are many problems which people face.

Paid maternity leave does not benefit only a "tiny number of elite women". It benefits all working mothers who are lucky enough to have jobs. You can act as dismissive as you like about that fact, but that does not change its importance.

ismnotwasm

(41,989 posts)
10. I think neoliberal economic theory
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 12:17 AM
Feb 2013

Arose from patriarchy.

Elite women have something called 'nannies'

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
13. No. This group is not on board with the tactic of derailing women's issues
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 11:49 AM
Feb 2013

by trying to say that other issues are more important.

Class warfare is a real problem but this group is about feminism and it is not OK to tell us that feminist issues have to take a back seat to other issues.

We are not sitting at the back of the bus any more.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
14. "not sitting at the back of the bus any more" not gonna happen. we have seen it TOO much
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 12:16 PM
Feb 2013

and we have seen the results of being good little girls. we also see the results of speaking out. speaking out works

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