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ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 05:11 AM Mar 2012

What Studying the Women in the Founders' Lives Reveals

Friday, July 16, 2010 - 10:09
Thomas Fleming
Mr. Fleming, a former president of the Society of American Historians, is the author of more than forty books, both fiction and non-fiction. His latest is: The Intimate Lives of the Founding Fathers. He is a member of the board of directors of HNN.


With leaks and wandering emails, talk shows and tell-all aides, the private lives of today's politicians seem to have become public property. Whether this may eventually unravel the Republic is frequently debated in the media. Not a few bloggers, talk show hosts and late night gurus maintain that the best and brightest are now loath to enter politics.

Still, the number of politicians has not noticeably declined. Nor are we the first generation to take a more than passing interest in the personal lives of our elected leaders. Convinced that historical perspective might be the best answer to the Gotterdammerung tone that the discussion sometimes takes, I decided to explore the roles of women in the lives of the first group of American politicians to win fame -- George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Alexander Hamilton, John Adams and James Madison. Collectively, most historians agree, these are the founding fathers, the men who made the greatest contribution to the birth of the nation.

I was soon watching a young George Washington riven with desire for the wife of his closest friend. I stood with Thomas Jefferson at the bedside of his dying wife, Martha Wayles, as he sobbed a fateful promise that he would never marry again. I saw a youthful Alexander Hamilton imbibe a toxic mix of fear and anger in his psyche when his headstrong mother banished his hapless father from her bed .

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Although the women in these famous lives spoke a hundred and fifty years before feminism entered the American vocabulary, their independent voices will surprise many people. The men and women of 1776 were far more candid and realistic about sexual desire and marital relationships than the Americans of the 21st century realize. They gave serious thought to the ancient conflict between the sexes and talked and wrote about it in ways that still have relevance today. This was evident from the novels they read and the stories that were printed in the newspapers.

More: Article from the History News Network.


History News Network has a pretty strong search engine is a great place to find history related news and scholarly analysis on many topics with it's broad collection of magazine-style articles and other materials. Hope you found this article to be a good read outlining what the lives of women for the middle/upper-class of American colonial society were very broadly like. Our culture has come a long way, but many cultural mores are still quite relevant.

Aloha.


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What Studying the Women in the Founders' Lives Reveals (Original Post) ellisonz Mar 2012 OP
Interesting article. n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2012 #1
Thanks for posting the article, ellisonz Violet_Crumble Mar 2012 #2
Thanks for posting this cmd Mar 2012 #3
thanks, that was a good read. n/t Scout Mar 2012 #4
Abigail and John Adams letter.... seabeyond Mar 2012 #5
Thanks for posting the letter Irishonly Mar 2012 #6

cmd

(5,673 posts)
3. Thanks for posting this
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 08:41 AM
Mar 2012

It made me go back and think about what an amazing woman my Great grandmother x7 was. Elizabeth was the daughter of a Philadelphia doctor, lost her first husband when she was quite young, married my grandfather and followed him across the Virginia frontier to the Ohio River bearing at least 11 children along the way. My grandfather was a frontiersman who served in the Virginia Militia during the Revolutionary War earning the title of Captain. He was killed by the Shawnee shortly after the war. My grandmother lived until she was 90. She had to be a strong woman to have survived all she did.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
5. Abigail and John Adams letter....
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 09:24 AM
Mar 2012

Nothing Abigail ever wrote better exemplifies this gift than her celebrated "Remember the Ladies" letter of 31 March 1776. The full passage shown here is worthy of quotation:

I long to hear that you have declared an independency—and by the way in the new Code of Laws which I suppose it will be necessary for you to make I desire you would Remember the Ladies, and be more generous and favourable to them than your ancestors. Do not put such unlimited powers into the hands of the Husbands. Remember all Men would be tyrants if they could. If perticuliar care and attention is not paid to the Ladies we are determined to foment a Rebelion, and will not hold ourselves bound by any Laws in which we have no voice, or Representation.That your Sex are Naturally Tyrannical is a Truth so thoroughly established as to admit of no dispute, but such of you as wish to be happy willingly give up the harsh title of Master for the more tender and endearing one of Friend. Why then, not put it out of the power of the vicious and the Lawless to use us with cruelty and indignity with impunity. Men of Sense in all Ages abhor those customs which treat us only as the vassals of your Sex. Regard us then as Beings placed by providence under your protection and in immitation of the Supreem Being make use of that power only for our happiness.2


In his reply to this remarkable letter, on April 14, John displayed both his embarrassment at Abigail's telling criticism, and his wit in deflecting it:

As to your extraordinary Code of Laws, I cannot but laugh. We have been told that our Struggle has loosened the bands of Government every where. That Children and Apprentices were disobedient--that schools and Colledges were grown turbulent--that Indians slighted their Guardians and Negroes grew insolent to their Masters. But your Letter was the first Intimation that another Tribe more numerous and powerfull than all the rest were grown discontented. --This is rather too coarse a Compliment but you are so saucy, I wont blot it out.Depend upon it, We know better than to repeal our Masculine systems. Altho they are in full Force, you know they are little more than Theory. We dare not exert our Power in its full Latitude. We are obliged to go fair, and softly, and in Practice you know We are the subjects. We have only the Name of Masters, and rather than give up this, which would compleatly subject Us to the Despotism of the Peticoat, I hope General Washington, and all our brave Heroes would fight.3

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Irishonly

(3,344 posts)
6. Thanks for posting the letter
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 11:05 AM
Mar 2012

As soon as I finished reading the article I was going to do a search for it.

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