Fixed it. Although as a health care provider, I have to admit, analogies between 'tape' worms and rape culture immediately sprung to mind, with one of the differences being tape worms are far easier to get rid of.

Great post. You would think that educated men would be more evolved. Apparently not.

Women need to put two and two together, and stop being played by the patriarchy which has made 'feminist' a dirty word.

As if being thought to have hairy legs is worse than loudly speaking out about this crap.

We're all just having 'the vapors' and clearly aren't doing enough to protect ourselves.


I hope the backlash cometh as well. There's seems to be a lot of righteous anger in women, but a little confusion when they're blindsided by it.

Debate, by its very nature is both challenger and challenging, and I kinda think it's an interesting litmus test. If skilled women can't debate without misogyny, when the purpose is debate---and I'm sure this isn't isolated to the UK--where CAN they argue their points/opinions without it?

and ridiculed based on their sexuality.

It's everywhere.

Also, note the frequency with which male politicians are attacked with insinuations about their sexuality. If they display any 'effeminate' characteristics, that is often used as a way to ridicule them.

And the Internet, lord, the Internet--all that anonymity brings out the worst of it, on top of what's simply considered socially acceptable -ala your thread on euphemisms and rapeculture.

And I had the same reaction.

How in the fuck do people not see the correlation?



I will shut up about it... when I'm dead.

When you admit it, you are attacked.

Certain types of people work very hard to silence anyone that threatens that particular entitlement.

and I cannot wait for people to finally demand it be stopped- at minimum, the violent kind.

to be part of whatever rude oaf's masturbation fantasy material, as if it were all well and good to share their thoughts about her 'fuckability', what they'd like to do to her or not do, etc.?

And isn't it odd that so few have a problem with portrayals of women being raped, spit on, choked, slapped, and verbally abused which are solely intended to arouse men to orgasm?

So very few objections to what amounts to a human rights violation. This absolutely has to change.

We need more people speaking out against the widespread racism in porn as well.

And we feel most comfortable doing what we have seen and this is why these " fantasies" are so polluting. The boys who see this prior to actually having sex are informed by it.....the girls somehow get the idea that this is expected of them? It is such a sure fire way to destroy hope of intimacy in a real relationship.

Perhaps it is really a way of discouraging sex altogether as it dooms the youth who may stumble upon it to the idea that sex= pain and humiliation.

I think sexual 'repression' is part of why we have such odd and sorry pornography. A fully realized sexuality wouldn't rely on what I call the 'dirty little girl' (or boy) syndrome. In other words, sex has to be somehow 'nasty' to be 'sexy'. The standard reply of 'what two (or one) consenting adults do is their business' is true, but it doesn't negate the fact that people attempting to overcome shame, or other sexual problems with porn is still a version of sexual repression by the very nature of porn.

......why in the hell weren't these people tossed out on their ears? Surely there is some security at these events -- why did someone, anyone, not insist that these asshats be shown the door? Shush them? Fuck that nonsense.......and if they were there to compete all the better -- behaving like that should be cause for losing admittance.

They do it because they CAN -- because there is no consequence for their boorish behavior; only claps on the back from their mates for being sooooooooo funny/smart/cool.

It's disgusting.

seriously, what are the odds they'll be punished for 'banter'?

In a college where the Last All Male Board is honored annually with a celebratory dinner?

The DM and truth don't have a strong connection.

I have no personal knowledge of what happened to Ms Meredith and Ms Valles. But the fact that the story appeared in the DM in no way implies it is accurate. It may well be, but the DM has a poor reputation amongst many Brits.

Did a quick search

Media sources simply repeat stories they have picked up from other sources which are not always reliable (and the Daily Mail is certainly not - but it's not even the worst in GB). Sometime the source is simply the PR department of a company or organisation. Nick Davies' book Flat Earth News is quite an eye opener.

But if even some of this report is true, I'm truly disgusted. I was born in Glasgow and still have an accent that can peel paint off walls: I'm also a frequent visitor. I don't know anyone in Glasgow who wouldn't be disgusted with this behaviour. If I were to live in Scotland, it would be in Glasgow - just because of the people. But does Glasgow have idiots? Unfortunately, yes.

Rebecca makes no mention of others in the crowd opposing these idiots. Glaswegians are pretty combatative and are not afraid to voice their opinion...loudly!!!! I would expect that many voices in the crowd would be telling these dowallies to STFU. This on its own makes me doubt (some of) the accuracy of the story

I have a good friend who is Scottish (he became a good friend after I quit mistaking his accent for Irish anyway) told me about, Scottish, Patter? Is it? Something about dialect, it was interesting and I'll have to ask.
Anyway, he'd be completely appalled as well. The point is more this happens far too often in a variety of arenas, and it needs to stop. It would be nice to see the positive male responses and the calling out of this kind of bullshit. As you say, they are there and need to be heard as well

It's an alphabetical list of words used in the Glaswegian dialect. I've had several editions (they seem to leave home without saying goodbye - aren't friends and family wonderful?)

There is an Irish accent that sounds very Scottish, It's called Ulster Scots. Scots and Northern Irish have always moved from Scotland to Northern Ireland and vice versa. But the accent is quite different to (say) Southern Irish. But just be glad you didn't mistake his accent for English.

That, I didn't do

is because, for this time at least, young women out number young men ... They (men) run the table ... and women have lowered their personal standards and expectations of relationships to accommodate the shortage of young men, most of whom aren't worth courting ... Just my opinion ... I can't name the study I read ( it was a year ago) to support this contention ... not going to look it up or link it ...

Someone handed in a bluebook exam detailing how he would rape me. It was pretty disturbing. He didn't use his real name, and since the class was enormous I never found out who he was. Fortunately, he never acted on his fantasy.

Did you report it to the authorities? Presumably, he submitted a genuine bluebook. Perhaps he could have been identified by that.

Of course, there's danger in that approach now that I think of it. The cops probably wouldn't prosecute because no "real" crime had been committed and he would be pissed at you.

I'm glad you escaped relatively unscathed but I'm sure the mental pressure and fear were horrific.

You have my genuine sympathy.

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Who showed it to a psychologist friend of his who said he though the person was dangerous and I shouldn't go out alone. I decided to ignore that advice since it was completely impractical. We tried to compare handwriting and find a match among the actual exams, but couldn't find it.

Universities have their own police forces. It didn't occur to me to contact them, but I'm sure it wouldn't have mattered.

Thanks for your sympathy. It was a bit creepy, but I wasn't actually that afraid.

Our tabloid press is sensationalist, misleading, and in itself often horribly sexist.

Having said this:

I can believe that at least some of this happened. There is a minority of students, especially among the super-ambitious, and often hard-drinking, set that are gearing themselves up for high-flying political and media careers, who are rude, arrogant, and given to all kinds of old-fashioned prejudices. For instance, some members of the Oxford University Conservative Association got into some trouble last year for singing a disgustingly antisemitic song at one of their 'port and policy' meetings.

However, the situation has improved a lot since I was myself a female university student in the 1980s - and even then, such attitudes, though all too common, did not go unchallenged. And people who act like this nowadays are likely to make themselves VERY unpopular with other students as a whole, though perhaps not in their own small drinking societies.

It's worth noting that a majority of British university students today are female. At Glasgow University specifically, 57% of students are women, though perhaps those who attend and participate in student union debates are not representative of the student body as a whole.

Sad that anyone would try to minimize this.

I'm glad the students at Cambridge aren't putting up with it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/9907930/Cambridge-University-students-boycott-prestigious-debating-competition-over-sexist-heckling.html

‘they are only joking’?