hey.... how about an Op. every namecalling post on us, we just copy and paste. in a weeek how many do you think we would have. well, documents.

the hornets nest". and that seems to be approved method yet for whatever reason, not bullying.

Keep 'em coming, please.

Expose these windbags for all the world to see.

I may not agree with another member but I don't take it to the Personal Messaging level.

I think that they are the bully in this case and, seriously, shouldn't be allowed to post here.

some people live to upset the applecart.

will I bear up under your disapproval?"

the idea of posting these, without comment, is a good one. sunlight is the best disinfectant.

upon reading this: "You, and many others in your posse, are attacking some of your greatest allies in the fight for the rights of women."

I have no idea who sent you the comments but I look at that and think -

arrogant, ignorant, sanctimonious, silly, condescending, old, shrinking importance, laughable, liar, so last century, small, frightened, poor thing, desperate

AND he thinks you're impolite.

OP.

That is too funny.

ETA: Also, he did not correctly characterize the situation for Skinner.

nest and by crickets, approve of more whacking those mean ole hornets.

in a thread THAT NO ONE CAN RESPOND TO.

hair dresser knew for SURE who wrote those snippets.

Now, we ALL know Vinnie.

Not the best response from Skinner either. FWIW

People are automatically locked out of threads when their post is hidden, and others are still free to discuss the hidden post even though the poster can no longer defend his poor little self. But let those nasty feminists do it and boy howdy that so unfair!! Waaaaaahhhhh!!

The most nauseating part of that exchange was the poor Vinny acknowledged that he was here to stir the shit, and that prompted no response from the Skinner. So , message received, and from the very top no less: people can feel free to come here and stir shit with the feminists and the boss will hold your hand while you whine about their response to your shit. Got it. This little exchange, along with the inexplicable refusal to change to TOS to denounce sexism, tells us all we really need to know about the Democratic (sic) Underground.

If your sole intent is to have good feminist analysis without backlash from bruised egos, DU is pitifully anemic in this regard. Other places are much more friendly towards pro-female discussion.

DU is a great place for many, many OTHER ideas and conversation.

I agree, Skinner outted himself as not being as supportive to many of the PAYING feminists here on HIS board.

Where are those other places more friendly toward pro-female discussion? I'd like to know

because, as we know, this place has serious problems in that regard and I'd be happy to know that

DU isn't the "norm" on the subject for progressive sites, generally.

It's not in a back and forth discussion format like this place is, but you can make friends with people and reblog and retweet interesting things, and ideas get shared.

locking the disruptor out of a thread to allow discussion.

all the rest, ya. you are right and now whenever a go anywhere in a discussion about hof i want to comment whack the hornets nest..... tis approved.

I have taken to watching what goes on DU as an interesting microcosm of society, and not getting too wrapped up in it.

exactly. me, too.

i was talking to son about a pummeling i was getting. the intricate here and theres about it all. then i conclude, but in the sociological aspect of it all it is very interesing. (i was telling him this because of a social issue he was having)

he started laughing and said.... only you. only you will be beaten up and say.... very interesting.

lol

i will let him know i am NOT the only one.

People's reactions to what we post are a pure reflection of themselves.

Their opinions are not a reflection of our rightness, wrongness, or value.

When somebody starts posting hateful, nasty, completely made-up bullshit (and lord knows we have seen it over, and over, and over, as described in your OP here http://www.democraticunderground.com/125518858) my reaction is not anger... it is curiosity about what causes them to react that way.

There are a couple of so-called "women" here who are as bad or worse as any of the men when it comes to dripping with hate and venom and perpetuating fabrications. They particularly fascinate me.

i really learn so much and it help me so much in real life. those i love benefit.

yup

I mean, hello, isn't being an acknowledged disruptor THE reason to either be TOSed

or at least have your post hidden?

and I don't think the alert was even related to women's issues.

They're takin' names and numbers, I tell ya.

Shows the level of vitriol some of our "progressive" boys hold toward feminists.

I saw the worst one going after you like a dog with a bone. I seriously don't get why he's still here. Abuse, insults, and disruption make up a sizeable percentage of his posts. Shit-stirring seems to be his sole reason for being here.

I often feel persecuted and depressingly alone. Maybe it's partly

my fault for not posting in HOF enough. I'm going to change that.

I've gotten such great responses from so many of you.

and you're also right...We always have to remember the support we have

from "the silent majority", lol....It is true that for everyone who voices

and opinion, there are MANY more who feel the same way. I've read, a number of times,

that, for instance, for every "complaint" letter/email a media outlet gets,

they assume that TEN more people feel the same way, so one should NEVER

think that their letter or email goes unnoticed because it doesn't, not at all. It's always "worth it".

So, back atcha, kiddo.

it explodes in minutes. and takes off from there. i am a lot of times at ground zero. i could post 20 posts in an hour. then i am done. said what i had to say. put position out. and generally walk away.

you have a life. lol. you come in after i have walked away. done. lol. but, i love and appreciate and value hearing your voice, perspective.

i am just not entering specific threads anymore..

but i am there in spirit. cheerin' , you go woman.

you have one of the strongest, succinct voices on womens issues.

I'm not sure what you mean by "it explodes in minutes. and takes off from there".

Beyond that, I must THANK YOU for all of your support. You say I have one of the strongest

succinct voices on womens issues?...That is a huge compliment, especially coming from you,

because I think the very SAME thing of you.

and there are DAYS about a damn door, lol.

Thanks again to ALL of you here...I was seriously ready to leave DU a couple of days ago.

Now I want to stay, if, for no other reason than to stay with all of you here on HOF!

Loves ya.

and I'll come running with my hornet whacker if I am online.

I will do just that.

I haven't played any Diablo 3 and I'm sure you haven't since the account debacle, but I'm still your bud

nope, can't get back in and never bothered to try harder.

Did I tell you my neighbour, who got D3 around the same time as I and we talked over the fence not about sow bugs or that noisy dog down the street, we talked about barbarians and neat crossbows. Wonder what our other neighbours were thinking of that conversation.

Anyway, saw him again just a while ago and he was just amazed that I was up to 60/100 in level, he called his son to tell him, in awe and disbelief! Then I said that it really wasn't me on that account for a while and he didn't want to believe it. ha.

I hate Blizzard . I've played a bit, but it's such a soured experience that I just couldn't enjoy it without my friends playing. I had a blast with you, LynneSin and the others that played to 60

probably because I've put them all on ignore now. I'm sorry to hear you were put through that too.

That's the major impression I take away from most of the caped super hero gender defenders for 'the male race' around here.

A mere difference of opinion is not, of course creepy--those types will interact ok, even if the argument gets heated-- but the ones that are--ew.

... uh, just now. I'll join the "posse" of women that are fed up with sexism, subtle or otherwise.

Oh, speaking up means you are guilty of hating men, because, you know, men deserve their rightful place above women, and speaking up means you hate them. It sounds like religion and justifications for slavery.

Oh wait, tag not needed. It's just candor.

and I've endured my share of bigotry in the feminist community because I am a lesbian. A femme one, at that.

It's changed absolutely nothing of my views on feminism. I still educate myself, I still fight for women's rights, and if that upsets someone because I'm a lesbian while doing it, well, so what.

Back atcha

There are some serious issues, with a small disruptive group that make it their mission to oppress any woman's opinion. Now I know, this group says the same thing about women doing it to men, but it is false context. I'm just stepping up to the plate and saying "no more" because it has gotten out of hand.'

Feminists on this board could be more tactful, it's true, but the male advocates on this board could try letting it all the fuck out and discussing what is really bothering them, then a dialogue could take place without this veiled bullcrap.

At least they would be honest, and a real argument could take place.

We can only hope.

It's funny that the first two excerpts are complaints based on traditionally masculine values: cowardice--the opposite of courage--for the first one and physical strength (muscle flexing) in the second. The third example is just unhinged.

From meaningless platitudes to counter-accusations.

Good OP, though. I missed it so I appreciate the link.