History of Feminism
Related: About this forumbrilliant people on du, tell me the psychological affects of being beaten down,
but instead of staying down, rising more powerful and strong and capable.
because i got to tell you, every time i feel i have been beaten down, in a matter of time, i feel empowered all that much more. a confirmation that i am on the right track. decisive. and i feel the empowerment ripple out amongst us all, that much more. in a more powerful and strong collective voice that is heard even further, than just moments ago.
does anyone get what i am saying? does anyone feel the same?
we have had so many of these oh so traumatic drama/trauma issue on the new du. but since about november, or christmas, instead of hopeless, i always come back feeling more focused, more lazer.... more able.
more connected to the voice of the women world wide.
niyad
(113,323 posts)my final goal" --helen reddy
Helen Reddy
(998 posts)You have the strength and the kevlar of many!
Whatever you need, I am ALL IN.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)and I'm right there with you!
LiberalLoner
(9,762 posts)Tumbulu
(6,278 posts)and it is why I avoid a lot of confrontations that I should be willing to jump into.
I sometimes do it- but I stay down and beat for way way too long.
I am grateful that you are able to recover and even gain ground. You really are wonderful seabeyond!
mopinko
(70,112 posts)chervilant
(8,267 posts)(I've kept the autoreplies in preparation for my own OP about this situation, but the increase in "fodder" has kept me busy bookmarking the relentless "controversy" about those of us who've been labeled "sisters of outrage." O, the irony ...)
DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)several of the juveniles take a nasty swing at you but what they don't realize is that the blows land on all women.
So, the more they pile on the more feminists (and allies) they create. I hope they don't figure it out.
Thanks for running point.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)feel that way personally, I mean.
But I'm gonna pretend I do, and try to fake it till I make it.
Thanks for putting this positive energy out here for all of us.
ismnotwasm
(41,986 posts)That's exactly it Sea. I like DU, but its in no way a place for feminist activism. I have that elsewhere and it keeps me joyous, and it keeps me laughing.
sofa king
(10,857 posts)You don't have to be an athlete to confront and overcome adversity. The following observation applies just as equally to moral perseverance as well as physical perseverance:
Perseverance is synonymous with pain and suffering to many people. Because all animals instinctively seek pleasure and avoid pain, you have to flip your perspective on perseverance 180-degrees and view struggle and perseverance as a doorway to pleasure. Stop viewing perseverance as drudgery but as an opportunity to neurochemically boost your confidence and make you feel good. When framed correctly, the process of perseverance becomes a hedonic experience. This is an explanatory style that makes certain people keep pushing and others to quit. As Henry Ford said, "There is joy in work. There is no happiness except in the realization that we have accomplished something."
Aside from a hearty "fuck you" to Hitler's buddy-boy Henry Ford, the above seems to apply well to what you have said above. Not giving up is an accomplishment all its own. And thank you for that!
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)thank you for the article.
interesting. and hits the nail on the head. i knew it was something real. lol. thank you
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)stink it up a bit. and then people act surprised that you all are so fuckin' in the face obvious.
no. people pretend. a lot of pretending. and huge insult when someone calls out all the pretend.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Making phone calls and stuffing envelopes.
It gets me how people jump to the wrong conclusion around here.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)should be expected. it is all basic. not really the issue in going after male privilege, entitlement, you know, that patriarchy that you value and reinforce continually.
but, thanks for playing.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Including my boss, her boss, and her boss.
I have ZERO problem with women in charge and don't feel a need to compete with them.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)anyway, busy. go at it hoss.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)I take it you saw that DUer's hidden post.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)da wimminz
otherwise.... you get no mo support
chknltl
(10,558 posts)(This is both on and off topic at the same time.) When first I saw the OP title I mistook the intent and clicked in searching for DUers discussing PTSD. Agewise I am an average DUer, been around for half a century. Most of that time my personality, my character and arguably my life has been strongly influenced by PTSD. Until late last year I was unaware that I suffered from it. Recently the good doctors at the Veterans Hospital made me aware of it but outside of medications I was given no real strategy for dealing with it. Reflecting on my life I see how that PTSD has had a tremendous negative impact. It never occurred to me till just now that one could draw strength from one's reactions to being 'beaten down'. Well that's what I got out of this.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)i am glad i read your edit. totally, awesome. to have that so long, and for it to be weighing on you for so long. the heaviness of it, and yet not aware of what it is.
my husband experienced this recently for other reasons. and the weight of it. even though i battle so often, i do not have that cloak weighing me down. so i get what you say. i hope you can find tools to help you not have to live that anymore. there is nothing better than the freedom from that.
pm me if you are interested.
mbperrin
(7,672 posts)"if you're not pissing somebody off, you're not doing something right."
She said "fuck you" to my elementary school principal in 1962(!) when he tried to justify a group punishment of students for the actions of an identified pair.
Born in 1896. I miss her often.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)it is not my intent to piss people off. really. lol.
well, mostly
Skittles
(153,164 posts)the Groupies and the Gun Nuts seem to dominate DU but their sheer hysteria indicates how desperate they feel
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)isnt that so. i put a graphic on an OP and didnt even say anything.... and all hell explodes. i didnt even go into the thread, it was so absurd. a damn graphic.
Skittles
(153,164 posts)the more hysterical they get
hue
(4,949 posts)Yes to give/radiate and receive "light" or enlightenment and wisdom as Your hands show!
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)to step back into another life. calling to me....
H2O Man
(73,558 posts)While I am far from brilliant, I enjoyed the OP/thread enough that I'd like to respond.
Martin Luther King, Jr., frequently quoted a line from William Cullen Bryant's poem: "Truth crushed to earth shall rise again." It's a line that I have often thought about, over the decades that I have attempted to be an advocate for social justice. There have been -- and will continue to be -- set-backs along the way. Some of them are painful. This can include attacks upon one's self, or others.
Yet "defeat" is only a temporary situation, and is most frustrating when one has done less than their very best. Hence, I try to do my best, while recognizing that life progresses in cycles that make going all-out, non-stop, with 100% high-gear efforts is impossible to sustain. One has to take care of herself/himself, in order to achieve their greatest potential.
Again, interesting OP/thread. Recommended.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)your post had me thinking yesterday. i appreciate it. thank you.
Flying Squirrel
(3,041 posts)with over 185,000 posts between you in the face of innumerable people calling mightily for your being banned from DU.. and I am in awe.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)that is one way to look at it. for sure.
cutest. lol
MadrasT
(7,237 posts)First of all, I don't get too worked up over anything individual people post here. Especially the most predictable, most vocal jackasses. They do it for attention and in general, I am not willing to satisfy that need.
And when the roar grows too loud, it only makes me stronger.
Over my whole life, my reaction to adversity is to become stronger and even more determined.
Women's voices are rising all over the world. It is a beautiful thing.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)i am really glad to hear this from you.
i hold a place in my heart with you, and i do not particularly know why, that it is "enough" for you, somewhere.
and you posting this makes me feel good.
Shivering Jemmy
(900 posts)There is a very fine distinction between Zen and just being scarred over.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)this feels scarred over. that is a very good point and insightful. interesting.
ismnotwasm
(41,986 posts)I can practice healing calm because of old scarring. In general I'm a happy person. But I rarely explain fully how I got that way, because one of the ways is strict boundaries with certain behavior.
I notice others will struggle through damaging family relationships out of duty, or hopes that things will get better, or that things will change. I don't have those restrictions, so I think I can sound cold- blooded, but I just work a little calm, cut out the chaff and stay content.
In general while I truly love human beings as a whole, individuals can get on my last nerve. I'm no social butterfly, I'm careful who I allow in my life-- the key word here being allow. Probably the real reason I don't have Facebook. (Although that's going to change with a daughter in Michigan)
On-line, I do kind of the opposite; I can come to care for Individuals, but the Internet community is easy for me to dismiss as irritating probably because of the bullying tendencies I see everywhere.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)and i would tend to say i have pretty much stayed scar free. more used to the zen. lol. but, that is ok too. i think we are in the same place.
age? or content with self?
but, i hear ya. the understanding i have no control or power over another. only myself. why bother, lol.
your post sounds very much like what i live.
and timely, also.
thank you
ismnotwasm
(41,986 posts)Of course that can come with age, but many women don't see aging as freedom. They see it as something to fight against, which is fine when it involves health, and quality of life, horrid when its chasing a long gone youth. That must be depressing.
I even appreciate my physical scars. But I mistake myself for a badass now and again.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I am getting exhausted from all of this. Thank you!
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)always good to see you trail a thread with a nod and a wave.
you get that, right. lol