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BainsBane

(53,072 posts)
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 04:10 AM Jun 2013

Could the Facebook Win Be Feminism’s Tipping Point?

Feminists won big on Tuesday when an online campaign forced Facebook to revisit their policies on misogynist hate speech. In just a week, the protest—organized by Women, Action & the Media (WAM), Everyday Sexism and writer Soraya Chemaly—generated nearly 5,000 e-mails and 60,000 tweets directed at Facebook’s advertisers. After companies started to pull ads, Facebook responded with a lengthy statement committing to change their policies and admitting they hadn’t been doing their due diligence curtailing violent sexism: “In recent days, it has become clear that our systems to identify and remove hate speech have failed to work as effectively as we would like, particularly around issues of gender-based hate…. We need to do better—and we will.”

The success of the action is not just more proof that online activism is increasingly becoming feminism’s strong suit—from Facebook to Komen to transvaginal ultrasounds—but it also gives some hope that the culture is starting to shift around violence against women. Jaclyn Friedman, executive director of WAM,* says the win left her “cautiously optimistic.” Friedman points to the outrage over the social media-documented rape in Steubenville, gang rapes in India and the suicides of several young rape victims as indications that Americans may have had enough of the consequences of rape culture. While she’s still unsure that the country is ready for widespread change, she believes “there’s a critical mass right now; it could be a tipping point moment.”

Like Friedman, I’m hopeful but wary—the fact that such a campaign needed to be launched at all is a depressing indicator of where American culture is on sexual assault and violence against women. That someone could think to post a picture of a dead woman who appears to be shot in the head with the tagline, “I like her for her brains,” or a woman lying at the bottom of the stairs with the line, “Next time, don’t get pregnant,” is enough to give any optimist pause. Even worse is that such hateful misogyny could be considered humor. And the fact that up until now Facebook didn’t classify this as “hate speech” means that the people behind these images and pages had their sexism validated and accepted.

But this glaring, in-your-face misogyny may be the spark that pushes culture forward—there’s no arguing with these images, these court cases, these stories. Maybe it needed to get a lot worse—or more visible—for it to get better. For years, the most common anti-feminist talking point has been that American women don’t have it all that bad. That we should stop complaining and focus on women in other countries who are “really” oppressed. (Sound familiar?)

But today, telling women that sexism doesn’t exist anymore is a really hard sell. Thanks to the Internet and the speed at which stories move—not to mention the vile sexism in most online spaces—any American woman who spends more than five minutes onlines hears about or experiences misogyny every day. And the absolute deluge of sexism—from “legitimate rape” and birth control controversies to rape jokes and high-profile domestic violence murders—makes it impossible for anti-feminists to call these stories anomalies in an otherwise equal society. What they really are is proof of systemic political inequity and cultural disdain for women.


Read more: http://www.thenation.com/blog/174583/could-facebook-win-be-feminisms-tipping-point#ixzz2V8enzcH1

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Could the Facebook Win Be Feminism’s Tipping Point? (Original Post) BainsBane Jun 2013 OP
While I think this is very positive and necessary, Squinch Jun 2013 #1
I don't think there has been or will be a tipping point. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #2
You're right BainsBane Jun 2013 #3
Well, people can't say stuff like that in person geek tragedy Jun 2013 #4
As has been pointed out, sadly no. redqueen Jun 2013 #5

Squinch

(51,021 posts)
1. While I think this is very positive and necessary,
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 06:51 AM
Jun 2013

I don't think it is a tipping point in the attitudes. It might be a tipping point in the availability of places to express the attitudes, which is a big improvement.

But frankly, I think the attitude has been there since the beginning of time, and originates in the fear some men have always felt towards women, and we are a long way away from the end of that.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
2. I don't think there has been or will be a tipping point.
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 10:15 AM
Jun 2013

Rather, just thousands of small victories that nudge progress forward inch by inch.

Misogyny is, in my opinion, easily the most enduring, widespread, and difficult to displace bigotry in society. It's exercised against women by women as well as men, has adherents tacit as well as open in people of all ideological stripes, and still does not draw the social disapproval that racism and nowadays homophobia do.

BainsBane

(53,072 posts)
3. You're right
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 10:22 AM
Jun 2013

The tipping point thing is overblown. It's the author's argument and title, not mine. I do find it interesting that she says people have been shamed into not saying the kind of crap we hear from so-called progressives on DU everyday,

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
4. Well, people can't say stuff like that in person
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 10:24 AM
Jun 2013

in a work or academic environment. DU has a level of discourse more closely resembling talk radio and a locker room.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
5. As has been pointed out, sadly no.
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 10:41 AM
Jun 2013

This is simply too deeply entrenched in almost every aspect of society.

This one area - violence against women promoted and portrayed as 'humor' on facebook - is such a tiny manifestation of misogyny. Rape culture is a larger aspect but still it is just one symptom. It is a very significant aspect, but treating symptoms won't help in the long run. We need much more awareness of the myriad ways that women are portrayed as less than.

It is a step in the right direction, and an encouraging sign. It is noteworthy to consider though, how long it went on with people making excuses for it, saying women needed to accept it and ignore it, told they were being annoying for pointing it out, etc.

This is far from a tipping point. It's barely a chip off of an enormous, systemic problem... one that most people still don't even recognize as even being a problem.

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