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ismnotwasm

(41,989 posts)
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 12:44 PM Sep 2013

FYI Mom Bloggers (If You’re Shaming Teenage Girls)

(This is a great piece about the women who wrote how she had to 'block' a teenage girl because of the pictures she posted of herself; that story is linked to in the article)

Can everybody please stop masturbating for five seconds so we can talk about modesty, but also talk about me? I was raised in the Roman Catholic tradition, and modesty was intertwined within every aspect of our teachings and culture. Our hems had to be a certain length, no makeup was allowed, and most of what I heard about sex as a child/tween was that boys want sex, they will do anything to get it, and you have to keep them from having sex with you, because they will try at all costs.

Of course it was never mentioned that girls will also want sex, so when the time comes and you do start feeling arousal and attraction, not only have you and boys both been taught that you’re responsible for keeping them out of your plaid skirts, you’re also responsible for keeping yourself out of their pants. (And if you’re gay, your sexuality was never ever brought up, but trust me, it’s still your fault and you are very very bad if you ever have an orgasm. Catholic guilt is always in abundance, enough to go around!) It’s confusing, indeed, to have the very idea of your own sexuality or arousal treated as non-existent or an illusion.

The message was loud and clear: ‘Boys and men are very sexual creatures and think about and want sex constantly. Women and girls don’t want sex. It’s something they do to appease men and it’s not something that women and girls think about or want.’ It can create a sense of guilt or shame when you do start feeling arousal, because ‘isn’t that just for boys?’ My own attraction and attractiveness were never to be discussed or acknowledged. And with that comes the burden, as an adult, of unpacking all of that dogma and conditioning and getting to a point of understanding that my own sexual arousal and desire are real, normal, and OK.

Further, it is OK for me to like the way I look and to be comfortable with that, and to not have to apologize for feeling pretty. And it can be difficult, as a girl or a woman, to feel beautiful. And if we can’t get to a point where we can feel beautiful, even feeling comfortable or accepting of ourselves can be a challenge. We are daily inundated with messages telling us how to perfect or enhance our beauty, how to change our bodies, how to adjust our clothes, how to attract a mate, and the focus, always, is on our bodies and the way we look. For many women, these messages are even more harmful, as the beauty standard constantly put forth is typically whiteness first and foremost, a white supremacist advertising utopia. It is a form of cultural violence to perpetuate the lie that a woman’s worth is seated in her attractiveness, and that what can be considered attractive is limited to such a narrow construct.
http://feminspire.com/fyi-mom-bloggers-if-youre-shaming-teenage-girls/

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FYI Mom Bloggers (If You’re Shaming Teenage Girls) (Original Post) ismnotwasm Sep 2013 OP
Holy crap I just saw that Horror Mom's blogpost this very morning. Sheldon Cooper Sep 2013 #1
And then has her sons posing n the beach pics ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #2
Heh. Sheldon Cooper Sep 2013 #3
This woman sounds like someone from 100 years ago get the red out Sep 2013 #4
Sometimes I wonder GeoWilliam750 Sep 2013 #5
My first boyfriend's mom was one of those. MadrasT Sep 2013 #6
Boys and girls learn from whatever parent demonstrates such 'values'. redqueen Sep 2013 #7
You might be right get the red out Sep 2013 #8

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
1. Holy crap I just saw that Horror Mom's blogpost this very morning.
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 01:19 PM
Sep 2013

The one where she chastises teenaged girls for taking selfies and then tells them that they are no longer worthy of contact with The Almighty Hall Men*.

What a sanctimonious steaming pile of rubbish - this woman is what's wrong, not those teenaged girls.

*her Manly-But-Apparently-Too-Fragile-For-This-World sons.

ismnotwasm

(41,989 posts)
2. And then has her sons posing n the beach pics
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 01:24 PM
Sep 2013

Ick.

And the icing on the hypocrisy cake? These are the actual photos of her sons that she posts in her blog post that is all about how teenage girls need to cover their bodies so her sons don’t feel lust and so that her sons can still respect these girls. This is real. I am not making this shit up:

So while it’s very, very, veeerrrryyyyyy important for teen girls to not just stay covered up, but also wear a bra under their clothes so that her sons cannot even see the defined outline of their breasts, she will post pictures of her sons in their bathing suits, posing and flexing their muscles. Because, after all, she is perpetuating rape culture, and furthering the myth that the female body is only a sexual thing and that the male body is exempt from this burden, this desirability.

Mrs. Hall, some girls and boys in your sons peer groups are looking at those pictures and feeling arousal. And I think it might be time to consider why it is that you find it so much more important for girls to cover themselves up to not tempt your boys and why you do not, in equal measure, cover up your boys to not tempt other girls and boys. It’s a double standard.

And then question why it is that instead of attacking a patriarchal system that tells us that men want sex, women tempt men, but must also keep sex from them, and that a woman’s worth is in her appearance, you chose to rail against teenage girls instead of against the system that created this paradigm. Evaluate why it was more important to you to create a sense of shame surrounding the very normal occurrence that is the female body rather than talk to your sons and daughter about respect and personal responsibility.

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
3. Heh.
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 01:29 PM
Sep 2013

It's A-OK for them to scamper about the beach half-naked, but god forbid a girl takes a picture without wearing a bra under her nightclothes.

get the red out

(13,466 posts)
4. This woman sounds like someone from 100 years ago
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 02:23 PM
Sep 2013

It's all the girls' faults, trying to pollute her pure boys.

Disgusting, she will be fortunate if her sons turn out anything close to emotionally balanced at all with her as their mother.

GeoWilliam750

(2,522 posts)
5. Sometimes I wonder
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 07:44 PM
Sep 2013

Do boys learn from their mothers how to devalue girls?

I certainly see it in the mothers of sons at my daughter's old high school. No woman is good enough for their sons.

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
6. My first boyfriend's mom was one of those.
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 07:59 PM
Sep 2013

Her precious sons could cat around and lie and cheat and fuck anyone in a skirt and the boys were somehow "catches" and all the girls they dated were gold diggers and the girls they "just" fucked were sluts and tramps.

She was batshit crazy. She also treated her daughters like dirt.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
7. Boys and girls learn from whatever parent demonstrates such 'values'.
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 08:34 PM
Sep 2013

Patriarchal values are not tied to sex. There are all kinds of people constantly regurgitating gender bullshit - men and women, moms and dads, uncles and aunts, grandmothers and grandfathers, neighbors of whatever sex, friends and celebrities and coaches and preachers and pastors and... you get the idea.

Girls do this. Boys do that. It's all variations on the same sick theme, and it's all for one purpose (the oppression of women.)

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