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ismnotwasm

(41,989 posts)
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:37 PM Oct 2013

Dear Internet: Thanks for the Advice on Sex and Drinking.

Dear Internet: Thanks for the Advice on Sex and Drinking. It's Way Better than What We Get from Slate.
Are we starting to see a cultural shift in how our society thinks about rape? The huge online response to a Slate columnist who told women to avoid rape by not drinking suggests that it's starting to happen.
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Here are a few of our favorite responses.

Jessica Valenti, writing for The Nation, brought in the broader context of rape culture: "When we make victims' choices the focus of rape prevention, we make the world a safer place for rapists ... You know why rapists attack rape women? Because they know the victim's community and law enforcement will be less likely to believe them."

Tyler Kingkade of the Huffington Post offered a male perspective. He wrote, "A woman should not have to fear that if she reaches a certain blood alcohol level, one of her friends, acquaintances or even boyfriend might sexually assault her."

If you’re in need of some comic relief, BuzzFeed responded to quotes from the article through a series of over-the-top reaction shots in the form of animated GIFs depicting the rapper Drake. The author added, "Women should be able to live in a world where they can drink to their heart's content without having to worry about being violently assaulted." We'll drink (multiple drinks) to that!
Amanda Hess, another contributing writer for Slate, had a few things to say: "We can prevent the most rapes on campus by putting our efforts toward finding and punishing those perpetrators, not by warning their huge number of potential victims to skip out on parties."

The Atlantic Wire's headline put it succinctly: "Slate Forgot That the One Common Factor in Rapes are Rapists."


http://www.yesmagazine.org/people-power/dear-internet-thanks-for-the-advice-on-sex-and-drinking-it-s-way-better-than-what-we-get-from-slate
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Dear Internet: Thanks for the Advice on Sex and Drinking. (Original Post) ismnotwasm Oct 2013 OP
A similarly ridiculous story appeared earlier in the year rocktivity Oct 2013 #1
There's a thread in GD right now ismnotwasm Oct 2013 #2
What did the jerks in Steubenville say so much gollygee Oct 2013 #3
But there's no such thing as rape culture! redqueen Oct 2013 #4

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
1. A similarly ridiculous story appeared earlier in the year
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 12:16 AM
Oct 2013

Last edited Sun Feb 16, 2020, 12:47 PM - Edit history (7)

Risk Management is Not Victim-Blaming


And the tweets just kept on coming (#SafetyTipsForLadies):

If there's anything rapists hate, it's bubble wrap!

If you hide your forearms in your sleeves, the rapist will mistake you for a T-Rex.

1 in 4 women will experience sexual assault in her lifetime. Be one of those other three women.

Most rapes happen inside or outside. Avoid these places.

Don't be female in public. Or, for that matter, in private.


My contributions:
Women get raped because they use poor judgement. Use rich judgment instead.

Don't ask for it.



rocktivity

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
3. What did the jerks in Steubenville say so much
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 09:14 AM
Oct 2013

something like "She should have known what would happen if she drank so much."

That's my fear. So often the way this is handled and presented turns it into that kind of a teaching moment. That girls and women should know what would or will happen if they drank so much. It gives rapists permission and blames the victims. When law enforcement and others in the criminal justice say it and use it as an excuse to not arrest or convict rapists, it makes rape legal. I think it could be incorporated well into a larger program that talked about consent, but I don't think that's how it's handled at least the vast majority of times.

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