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Related: About this forumWhen a black female scientist gets called an 'urban whore'
More of that white and male privilege people keep on saying doesn't exist.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/cafe/when-a-black-female-scientist-gets-called-an-urban-whore
If you haven't heard of Lee already, here's the backstory: She was recently asked by an editor named "Ofek" of the scientific site Biology-Online if she would be interested in blogging for them. When she asked for further details, including how much they paid their guest bloggers, the editor responded that the opportunity could provide traffic and exposure, but no payment. Lee politely declined the offer from Ofek, who penned a horrifying response: "Because we don't pay for blog entries? Are you an urban scientist or an urban whore?"
Even absent the continual debate about writing for free in online spaces, Lee's experience points to something deeper: It's hard to argue that Ofek would have responded to a white male writer in the same way he responded to her.
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By calling Lee an "urban whore," the Biology-Online editor was essentially chastising her for not taking what she could get. The editor couldn't possibly understand how this black woman wouldn't jump at the chance to work for free, given that women of color are so rarely featured in publications, scientific or otherwise. This offensive slur reinforces the notion that women of color should be thrilled with the meager scraps they are thrown, and that they should smile and nod while doing so.
Biology-Online reports that "Ofek" the editor has been fired, and rightly so. But the fact that someone felt entitled enough to represent the site while so viciously deriding a black female scientist speaks volumes to little regarded women of color are in this context. Perhaps Ofek thought that Lee would silently take the slur, as women of color are so often expected to do. Or perhaps Ofek assumed that even if Lee did go public with the horrific incident, that the scientific community wouldn't take it seriously. Given that Lee's original post on her "Urban Scientist" blog was originally deleted by Scientific American because the post wasn't considered germane to the topic of discussing science, this assertion wasn't completely wrong. In response to public outcry, the post has since been re-instated.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)wasnt harsh or critical of the person that said that to her, but explaining why this was wrong and how it effects our girls in science, nad why one should not be expected to work for free, or something like that. very professional. the site deleted her blog saying she was bringing personal into all this. and had done nothing about the man that called her a whore. the spent all weekend considering it. the last i saw, they had "disciplined" the man, but not fired him yet. good to hear he was fired. but in this thread we discussed this, sheldon (i believe) gave a link to the discussion/comment thread and i participated a little. was fun. forgot to go back to it after pg 5. now i am gonna see what developed. thanks for the reminder.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/125527564
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Scientific American took down her post b/c legal issues (had to verify that it was true) and then put it back up.
The creep who wrote the email got shitcanned from biology-online, but has not been outed.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)positive.
and i think there reasoning changed over the weekend, lol. but that is cool. whatever
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Seriously, the fact that he called her an "urban whore" just for declining his offer? Fuck that fucking asshat.....it's sexist at the very least, and probably racist as well, if he knew about her background before hand.....and I'm guessing he never apologized, either.
Kudos to Dr. Lee for standing up to him, too.....