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ismnotwasm

(42,005 posts)
Wed Dec 25, 2013, 03:15 PM Dec 2013

What makes a woman a nymphomaniac?

Damned if we do and damned if we don't. I won't seeing the film, as it's sure to be irritating; but the discussion is worth having.

A woman masturbates, has erotic feelings towards numerous men and women, and an “excessive” desire for sex. Is she a nymphomaniac?

Filmmaker Lars von Trier is reigniting debate on the subject with his controversial new film, Nymphomaniac.

The story of a self-diagnosed nymphomaniac who recounts her erotic experiences, the film consists of four hours of explicit sex. Publicity posters depict the naked A-list cast in orgasmic release, ensuring controversy prior to its Christmas Day release in Copenhagen.

This controversy is bad for women.

Labelling a woman with active sexual desires a nymphomaniac continues an age-old tradition of pathologising women’s sexuality – a tradition that needs to be discarded.

Leeches, borax and bed rest

Descriptions of nymphomania first appeared in the 1700s. But it wasn’t until the late 1800s that the label was made into a psychiatric diagnosis and widely applied to overly sexual women.

“Symptoms” included sexual insatiability, lewd advances to men (or women), and most abhorrent of all, the practice of self-pleasure through masturbation.

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rocktivity

(44,577 posts)
1. I don't know what makes a woman a nymphomaniac
Wed Dec 25, 2013, 04:30 PM
Dec 2013

but I'm sure it's safe to rule out a self-diagnosis.


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intaglio

(8,170 posts)
2. Nymphomania is a terrible term, hypersexuality is better
Wed Dec 25, 2013, 04:31 PM
Dec 2013

as it applies to both men and women.

If posters do not believe how bad "nymphomaniac" is as a descriptive, check the synonyms (via MacMillanDictionary.com)
nymphomaniac, tramp, whore, tart, slag, slut, trollop, swinger, vamp, scarlet woman

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
4. Whatever term you use, it is a rather subjective thing. I mean as far as what's "excessive" and
Wed Dec 25, 2013, 06:25 PM
Dec 2013

what's not. Some people have very strong libidos, others fairly weak ones. I guess we should apply the same criteria that we use for substance abuse, namely is it (the behavior) negatively affecting the person's everyday life, or those around them?

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
6. In mental health terms excessive is anything that interferes with day to day living or
Wed Dec 25, 2013, 06:55 PM
Dec 2013

if it interferes with the normal functions of those round you.

For Georges Simenon (assuming he wasn't a liar) his sexual drive did not interfere with him but did interfere with those round him.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
7. Still somewhat subjective, I guess, but fairly common-sense-ical.
Wed Dec 25, 2013, 07:08 PM
Dec 2013

In a "you know it when you see it" kind of way.

ismnotwasm

(42,005 posts)
8. I watched a show on sex addition one time
Wed Dec 25, 2013, 08:43 PM
Dec 2013

And it was like watching drug addicts. I was actually surprised, I didn't realize how bad it got.

HOWever, the term "nympho" is still used as a put down for women, almost interchangeable with "slut"

When a women has very strong sex drive-- she is often derided for it. The article does point out this standard isn't the same for men. A woman should be able to have multiple sexual partners or frequent sex without shame or stigma.

My standard of evaluation is basically do no harm, not to yourself, not to others. Be safe, be kind.

ismnotwasm

(42,005 posts)
10. I'm ignoring Christmas until next week
Wed Dec 25, 2013, 10:03 PM
Dec 2013

I had to work, but it's ok.

I could be there for people stuck in a hospital for Christmas, and that's important




I hope yours was great!

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
3. Nymphomania is an actual mental disorder, not "slutty" behavior.
Wed Dec 25, 2013, 06:17 PM
Dec 2013
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nymphomanie
(weird, there's no article on nymphomania on the english wikipedia)

The term has been replaced by "hypersexuality", because of too much cultural ballast: It depends on the culture whether sexual hyperactivity and promiscuity are regarded as something bad and where the line is drawn.
Nymphomania is listed as mental disorder by some psychological institutions, but not by others.

Unusually large sex-drive is considered one symptom of nymphomania.

An example for nymphomania is when someone is afraid to commit to a deeper relationship emotionally and substitutes the resulting lack of emotional contact with sexual contact. Sex becomes a drug.

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
5. The problem is that it is used exclusively about women
Wed Dec 25, 2013, 06:51 PM
Dec 2013

The male equivalent terms, Satyriasis, gynocomania and satyromania, are rarely, if ever, used. Hypersexuality is more egalitarian and does not imply it is an illness exclusive to women

 

Flatulo

(5,005 posts)
11. I used to work with a woman who spoke openly about her frequent masturbation.
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 01:56 AM
Dec 2013

This was an uncommon experience, for we men to hear a woman speak of this. Men usually joke about how frequently they do it, but women don't discuss it (at least among the menfolk).

Note that I worked in a mostly-male environment - an engineering department - the mix was about 200 men to maybe 12 women.

She was a very bright engineer, and what one would refer to as a 'hot shit' for her sense of humor and strong personality. Everyone liked her. We didn't think of her as anything like a nymphomaniac, just an exceptionally honest and outspoken person. She was also quite attractive. She never dated men from work (which always seemed like a wise policy to me) although several had asked her out after her divorce.

While I worked with her, for a period of maybe 12 years before she moved out of state, she divorced her husband and dated what would be considered a typical amount for a single mom - maybe one or two guys in a couple of years. She never remarried.

I think that maybe back in the day she would have been judged negatively, but this was a highly educated group of people. We all liked her and wished her well when she moved on. I'm still in contact with her through FB.

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