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boston bean

(36,221 posts)
Wed May 30, 2012, 07:53 AM May 2012

On Pregnancy and Privacy and Fear

Another interesting article linked from a previous post I made here this morning, in the group, on "Confronting Tradition: Weddings and Feminism"

My husband, Devan, wants to know when he can stop lying to everyone he cares about. He’s talking about the baby, the fact that we’re having one (if all goes well) in early October. He’s been making excuses for my constant sickness, lying about why I cancelled a trip to Chicago, responding vaguely to invitations. He doesn’t like it. Neither of us does.

I want to hold onto my “pre-pregnancy self” as long as possible. I like that self. I like the way people speak to her, react to her. I don’t want things to change. I have enough friends with babies to know how this works. Once you let people know you’re pregnant, you’re entered into lots of conversations about your belly, your weight, your breasts and how you plan on using them, what medications you’ll take, and why you’re right or wrong about them. I don’t want to have these conversations. I like the kinds of conversations I already have.

Devan is very understanding. It’s a tough line to walk, in terms of what percentage of the vote we each get. Physically, this is happening to me. The chatter will largely be about my decisions, my body. But this is happening to Devan, too. It’s both of ours. I want him to feel like it’s both of ours. He’s kind enough to let me call the shots. When he asks when we can tell people, it’s a question, not a demand.

“Do we have to tell people?” I ask. But I already know the answer.


http://therumpus.net/2012/05/on-pregnancy-and-privacy-and-fear/
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On Pregnancy and Privacy and Fear (Original Post) boston bean May 2012 OP
they'll figure it out soon enough. ejpoeta May 2012 #1
I had people looking at my ankles all the time. boston bean May 2012 #2
no matter what you do you can't win. when you are pregnant ejpoeta May 2012 #4
but there was, is lots of fun. the grocery store was our time out when kids little. seabeyond May 2012 #7
Wanna hear something real honest boston bean May 2012 #9
Wanna hear something real honest seabeyond May 2012 #10
Personally, I LOVE my 24 hour Safeway.... hlthe2b May 2012 #13
i never go on weekends. ours had to be 9ish in morning or would never make it. seabeyond May 2012 #16
Oh, hell, I'll go at family hour... hlthe2b May 2012 #20
lmao... my favorite grocery store trips is when they serve wine for tasting seabeyond May 2012 #24
I swear it's like a vacation spot for some people! boston bean May 2012 #18
That becoming "public property" would be the most offensive aspect to me... hlthe2b May 2012 #8
I *totally* get where she is coming from. MadrasT May 2012 #3
"He's 'kind' enough to let me call the shots." BlueIris May 2012 #5
i hear where she is going, and truly, she is all over the place. sad, and not, though, seabeyond May 2012 #6
Perhaps she'll be afforded the perspective of friends/family who can present that viewpoint... hlthe2b May 2012 #11
i was so old, and so individually identified seabeyond May 2012 #14
I loved being pregnant MerryBlooms May 2012 #12
i hated it.... lol. was sick the first 4 months all day long and heartburn the rest seabeyond May 2012 #15
To be fair, MerryBlooms May 2012 #19
true seabeyond May 2012 #21
oh geez. lol MerryBlooms May 2012 #23
I felt pretty physicall sick most of the time. boston bean May 2012 #17
*smooch Nothing to be envious about. We are who we are and that's damn spectacular! :D MerryBlooms May 2012 #22

ejpoeta

(8,933 posts)
1. they'll figure it out soon enough.
Wed May 30, 2012, 08:05 AM
May 2012

it's bad enough having family and friends giving their opinions and stuff... it's when complete strangers want to touch your belly or offer up advice. Even when I was on my 3rd pregnancy!

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
2. I had people looking at my ankles all the time.
Wed May 30, 2012, 08:09 AM
May 2012

Especially mid-end of my pregnancy.

I retained water and my ankles were very swollen. It was a really uncomfortable feeling, never mind the physical uncomfortableness, but the focus on my freakin ankles! LOL

ejpoeta

(8,933 posts)
4. no matter what you do you can't win. when you are pregnant
Wed May 30, 2012, 11:04 AM
May 2012

or in the store with your kids. When my kids throw a fit I feel the stares. Judging. Though I did have cashiers thank me for how I dealt with the kids as far as not giving in and not letting them mess with everything. LOL! I have three kids... I have had LOTS of advice and looks when I was pregnant. And when the kids are having a fit. No matter what you do you can't escape it.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
7. but there was, is lots of fun. the grocery store was our time out when kids little.
Wed May 30, 2012, 11:33 AM
May 2012

they interacted with strangers, people had fun. the slowing down to the kids pace was the challenging.

i really didnt mind any of it.

my doctor was so easy going and accepting of anything i told him. the babies doctor at 4 months told me, dont listen to everyone else. listen to myself. i know the baby best, i have the answers.

i had people around that allowed me my own identity.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
9. Wanna hear something real honest
Wed May 30, 2012, 12:15 PM
May 2012

I can't stand family day grocery shopping.

It clogs up the store, where you can barely push the carriage. People treat it like a day at the park, leisurely walking around without a care in the world to anyone around them.

Me, I try to go to grocery stores, during the time of day, when I know the family outing isn't being held there.

When my son was young, one of us went to the store and one stayed home.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
10. Wanna hear something real honest
Wed May 30, 2012, 12:25 PM
May 2012

(i am teasing and having fun.... i get frustrated? not really, with people that allows kids to run wild). there were anti kid threads a couple years back on du. way back, cause kids were 8 and 10ish. about kids getting in the way of adults, in their world. so, i started getting all over kids ass, if they made the littlest of misstep in the grocery store. being so hyperaware i started noticing the adults inevitably in my way, not moving, taking up the isle and looking at product making me wait or stopping and chatting with someone ignoring others behind. not watching where they were going. rudeness. and inevitably some adult cutting in front of a kid in line and the kid not courageous enough to speak up for himself.

the day i watched one of my sons fling his body up against an isle to ensure he was not in the oncoming adults way.... is the day i told them .... let it go. i had been telling the kids about how the adults saw them, in the way. and make sure they are being considerate. my boys took it to heart.

now, nothing much about the public bothers me. i find mostly the good and fun, and pretty much ignore the irritating.

except slow drivers..... they should get tickets. taken to jail. hang 'em. lol

gotta add in edit though.... i am an isolationist. a very social isolationist, lol. i get along with about everyone. and i dont like to be around people. so when i do go out of the house, it is the opportunity to socialize and then get back to the house.

hlthe2b

(102,278 posts)
13. Personally, I LOVE my 24 hour Safeway....
Wed May 30, 2012, 12:50 PM
May 2012

LOL And, someone would have to be dying to drag me to any busy grocery store during peak hours on the weekends. Maybe they should designate "family time hours"...

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
16. i never go on weekends. ours had to be 9ish in morning or would never make it.
Wed May 30, 2012, 12:53 PM
May 2012

and you are not sticking me in that family hour.... lol

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
24. lmao... my favorite grocery store trips is when they serve wine for tasting
Wed May 30, 2012, 01:50 PM
May 2012

now that.... makes shopping fun.

i know everyone in the store. two, three times a week. quarter mile from the house. i might even get 3 samples from them as i wander the store.

hlthe2b

(102,278 posts)
8. That becoming "public property" would be the most offensive aspect to me...
Wed May 30, 2012, 12:08 PM
May 2012

and knowing that people "mean well"--having to pretty much grin and bear it.... I empathize with that woman. Why would one want to open yourself up to that until absolutely necessary.

Yet while there is this societal expectation that pregnant women sort of "belong to all," there seems little outrage when police feel free to tase them. Or that post-natal breast feeding women should be stigmatized or even threatened with arrest for doing so in public...

Our society surely has conflicted views on pregnancy and reproduction.

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
3. I *totally* get where she is coming from.
Wed May 30, 2012, 09:09 AM
May 2012

One of the reasons I chose to not have children is because I couldn't bear the thought of losing "myself" to the role of being a mother.

Yes, I am self centered. And I realize that and own that. I just was not cut out to be a mother.

BlueIris

(29,135 posts)
5. "He's 'kind' enough to let me call the shots."
Wed May 30, 2012, 11:05 AM
May 2012

I feel kind of bad for that person. Your partner doing the bare minimum to be supportive of your feelings during the upheaval of an experience that is pregnancy in our rude, intrusive society isn't an an exceptional act of heroism on his part, it's doing the bare minimum. Not something she should have to be grateful for.

Also--if I ever have a kid, f 'those conversations.' Anyone who tries to start that 'how about your health' crap with me will do so at great risk.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
6. i hear where she is going, and truly, she is all over the place. sad, and not, though,
Wed May 30, 2012, 11:29 AM
May 2012

that she is going thru all this and not in the moment and not allowing a lot of fun between her and hubby and others. there is a special and fun in preg. she is fighting it. i get why, and it makes sense. but, it is really ok, too.

sigh....

well, we know

“Do we have to tell people?” the answer to this question. maybe then, she can have fun with it.

hlthe2b

(102,278 posts)
11. Perhaps she'll be afforded the perspective of friends/family who can present that viewpoint...
Wed May 30, 2012, 12:44 PM
May 2012

Giving up ones' relative privacy and personal "space" is a tough thing to adjust to.... I'm sure there are ways to make it more fun.

I remember a young colleague I worked with, having announced her pregnancy to everyone as "having found she was 'knocked up'".... After I got through wincing at the way in which she chose to reveal her pregnancy, I realized that "having fun with it," was exactly what she intended to do. And, she did.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
14. i was so old, and so individually identified
Wed May 30, 2012, 12:51 PM
May 2012

that i dont think i had that struggle. i had lived my life as i wanted for so long, i was ok with the changes that were happening. new chapter. new experiences.

her lessons will be in the way she does it. that is all. new insight. that is the one thing most all gain in huge life changes, regardless of how one chooses to walk them. so it is never about good/bad, right/wrong.

MerryBlooms

(11,769 posts)
12. I loved being pregnant
Wed May 30, 2012, 12:46 PM
May 2012

I could have easily had 5 or so instead of my 2 boys.

I don't know if I have ever been happier in my life than when I was pregnant and then with two little ones. Those times were exciting, invigorating and I don't believe I was ever more content with my life.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
15. i hated it.... lol. was sick the first 4 months all day long and heartburn the rest
Wed May 30, 2012, 12:52 PM
May 2012

a big bottle of tums ever couple weeks. lol

and the really sick thing. once i had the baby, i would miss not having the baby as a part.

odd odd

women like you made my eyes roll....

i say in jest

MerryBlooms

(11,769 posts)
19. To be fair,
Wed May 30, 2012, 01:02 PM
May 2012

I had a little evening sickness for two months and that was it. I loved the way my hair shined, my skin was so clear and pretty- I just felt great. I was at the gym until 3 days before I went into labor. I walked the hospital halls while my husband cracked jokes. First labor was 8 hours, the second was 3.

We all experience labor and delivery different. My sis-in-law (we were due at the same time) went through a miserable pregnancy and then 35 hours of absolute hellish delivery. Had her tubes tied as soon as the doc would agree.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
21. true
Wed May 30, 2012, 01:09 PM
May 2012

Last edited Wed May 30, 2012, 01:51 PM - Edit history (1)

my first almost a month early. water broke at a baseball game hubby was playing in. walking out i had four fields of bleachers standing up applauding me as i walked out.... lol

lordy

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
17. I felt pretty physicall sick most of the time.
Wed May 30, 2012, 12:57 PM
May 2012

Some women don't have many or any issues, glad you didn't . My sister n laws were like that. And after giving birth each of them were like nothing had happened just 12 hours prior.

I was envious of that.

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