I warn you against using figures with inherent statistical bias and you use the figures anyway.

But you are the wronged party

i said they were equally vulnerable, therefore there was no reason to point out women as victims. we already know.

the other block is what was posted in the thread by others.

Next, I did not ascribe the second block of text to you.

Now I will accept that there may be some part of this that you have left out, but the way your OP reads you are making objection to women taking self defense classes and saying men should be included. In fact inclusion in a self defense context is unlikely to be welcome, either by the teachers or the participants. If, instead, these classes were meant to be rape or assault awareness classes then men taking part in them is equally inappropriate as it is men who women feel are threatening.

is the idea that women are raped because they failed to protect themselves.
it isnt really a self defense class, just a seminar about crime avoidance and reporting to cops.
around here, lots of people would like to hear this message. singling it out as a special concern of women puts the onus on them for rape.
just saying it is for women reinforces fears, it doesnt help. it makes women turn in all the more. and again, we DO NOT NEED TO BE TOLD THIS.
like i said in another post-
we drink that fear with our coffee in the morning, and we tuck it under our pillow at night.

it feels like an implicit threat to me.
it did to a lot of other women in the thread.

But that is not the way your Original Post read.

Second: it is obvious that you are intelligent and I would suspect that verbally you express yourself very well. Unfortunately your abilities with the written word are not as effective.

Third: I am not saying stop posting indeed keep it up but I am saying read more posts by people like WilliamPitt, Gravitycollapse, Boston_bean and others. Ask yourself why they phrase things the way they do and if at a complete loss send them a private message to ask. Don't go back to school but learn how to teach yourself.

Fourth: Read or listen to poetry (Dylan Thomas as spoken by Richard Burton is good) and there are numerous Slam poets to read and listen to. By whatever means find the literature you love to read or listen to.

Learn - you have lessons to teach us all!

i know will pitt irl, for one thing.
eta- and i am one of the few people that can respectfully spar with him.

i also write all the damn time. and when i take the time to polish things, they shine.

get over yourself. i have an ivy league education.

Even if you are writing on a tablet or mobile phone you are expressing yourself poorly.

Continuing education is for everyone from 5 to 85. As you know Mr Pitt-Rivers please speak to him and, as I say, you can educate us all.

pretty sure he would tell you that you are an ass.
send him the link. maybe he will grace us with his presence.

I don't see a problem.

the second block was a reply to me.

not a pejorative.

to you at that point ...

i didnt mean jack. it's the damn lounge.

if you prefer we can take this discussion to The Lounge ... matters not to me.

from you in this thread, and I haven't even posted here until now. Why do you think you are owed any explanation about any of this? No one mentioned you.

every time I see it.

i make a joke that du is the hive mind because someone always knows the answer to shit.
that's it.
someone was an arrogant jerk to me, someone made a joke about it. period.


but damn, folks ought to really think about what they heck kinda safe haven this is. hell of a way to treat people.

i dont need this.

cuz you completely making shit up about me.

sure I understand, asking for clarification, looking for conversation.

All I did was be in the lounge and click on a link provided by pintobean in a thread started by you.
Imagine my surprise when it links back to this thread in HoF.
I had questions. I asked them.
I put all the links together so that everyone else could follow along if they wanted.
Transparency, you understand.
Trying to do the DU3 thing is all.
You and pintobean :appear: to take issue with all this.


what exactly, have -I- made up about you?

You never use to be like this.
Anyone can see what happened in this thread and understand the post I made in the lounge. I thought it was funny that someone here would give mopinko a bunch of shit about her posting style and I made a joke about it. Shit like this happens all the time, especially in this group. You're the only person who took issue with it. Apparently, you think it's a one way street. Hof can link to posts and ridicule and laugh about them, but god forbid anyone link back here and show any displeasure with a post. Have you anointed yourself the enforcer of hypocrisy? Jeez, TA, get over yourself.

Sid

What has happened to me? Really? You ask that question.

Nothing, pintobean. Absolutely Nothing. Not a thing.

Never used to be like this.
You never knew me, pintobean.
Never did. Never will.

I did not alert on your post, by the way.