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BainsBane

(53,037 posts)
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 12:56 PM Nov 2014

Man Stabbed For Asking Someone to Stop Catcalling His Girlfriend

Last edited Sat Nov 22, 2014, 06:22 PM - Edit history (1)

But catcalling is just men showing their affection for women, really. It's about power, power maintained through violence when necessary. Suggesting that women be treated as human beings has become dangerous in a society where misogynists will go to any length to keep the majority of the population down in order to convince themselves they aren't nothing. Fact is, they are less than nothing, pathetic losers who see the world around them changing and like the Klan and similar groups will do anything to try to maintain their illusion of power.



Man Stabbed For Asking Someone to Stop Catcalling His GirlfriendQExpand

A San Francisco man was stabbed and sustained life threatening injuries simply because he dared to ask a catcaller to leave his girlfriend alone.

On Nov. 15, Ben Schwartz, 31, was brutally stabbed nine times in the Tenderloin district of San Francisco after he asked a catcaller to stop harassing his girlfriend. Via SF Gate:


Daniela Saavedra, a friend, said that the group had passed the man twice before and that he had catcalled Schwartz's girlfriend each time. "

All he said was, 'Can you please just stop?'" Saavedra said. "The man then sort of trailed behind them, and that's when he attacked."

The man stabbed Schwartz nine times in the back, face, neck and arms, puncturing a lung, Saavedra said. She said gashes on his arms required about 60 stitches each, while the cuts to his back just missed his spinal cord.

According to police, Schwartz's request ignited an argument with the man who apparently is willing to kill someone just for his perceived goddamn right to tell a girl how she makes his boner feel.

So far, no one has been arrested for the crime. Police are asking anyone with information about the stabbing call police at (415) 553-0123, call their anonymous tip line at (415) 575-4444, or send a text to TIP411 with "SFPD" at the beginning of the message.

SF Gate reports that Schwartz, an advertising student at the Art Institute of California, is a decent guy who goes out of his way to do nice things for other people.


In February, as reported in The Chronicle, he went out of his way to buy a bicycle on the street that he thought was stolen, then searched for its rightful owner. The owner, a freelance photographer for The Chronicle, had been desperately searching for it when Schwartz contacted him.

All he did was ask "can you please stop."

There is a fundraising page set up to help with his medical bills and according to the page, Schwartz is recuperating from his injuries:


People should be aware that when they defend catcalling, this is the order they seek to maintain. Of course they know that, which is why that have worked so hard to pretend that feminism is anti-democratic and that their ideology is anything but propaganda for violent degradation of human beings, men and women alike. This is what they work so hard to maintain; they know without violent control they have nothing because they are nothing.
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Man Stabbed For Asking Someone to Stop Catcalling His Girlfriend (Original Post) BainsBane Nov 2014 OP
This is so messed up ismnotwasm Nov 2014 #1
k and r for continued visibility niyad Nov 2014 #2
Good Lord shenmue Nov 2014 #3
DU Rec. Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2014 #4
I have it from mercuryblues Nov 2014 #5
Yes, I know BainsBane Nov 2014 #7
+1. I don't buy it was because of something else, either. They wouldn't do it to a man, boss or LEO. freshwest Nov 2014 #8
I've found that catcallers are also the same types that want to start fights. chrisa Nov 2014 #6

ismnotwasm

(41,997 posts)
1. This is so messed up
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 01:17 PM
Nov 2014

I occasionally call out friends, this time female friends, for supporting sexism. Before this story, a few were giggling about a bumper sticker 'seen on an old lady's car' reading " Sexual Harassment won't be Reported, but it will be graded"

They were just goofing, but I had to step in and tell them that's bullshit, and posted the link for Hollaback. (Just like I tell them Won't be attending 'Bitches night out' or any event with the word 'bitch' in it, and I'm not a fucking Bitch.
---They know better to fuck with me and swearing, because I'll go there and I'll win.)

I understand being insecure and getting older and thinking or feeling actually, that kind of 'admiration' is a compliment but I'm not that kind of insecure, not even a little bit. I'm actually very gentle with these women, because they have an innate understanding and acceptance of what I'm saying, and I have no need to be mean.

Anyway, like the day after, this happened. Sexual harassment. A barrel of laughs.

mercuryblues

(14,536 posts)
5. I have it from
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 06:24 PM
Nov 2014

good and reliable sources that men do it just to be nice. When it is brought up that not all men who do this are "nice" and will do shit like this, the reply will be that it was because of something else. The guy was deranged, he was drunk, on drugs. It will never, ever be allowed to say that there are some men out there who believe it is their God-given right to treat women like this. When a man politely asked that guy to stop there was payback for interfering with his right. How dare someone tell him he can not be a nice guy and sexually harass just say hi to a strange woman out in public.

In the greater scheme of things, women have always known that an event such as this is a reality. Men like this do not come with a big A (is for a-hole)on their forehead as a warning, therefore any street harassment is not welcome. I wish the Christ the women who pipe up to say they love getting harassed would just for one second think about the harm she is helping to perpetuate against her sisters.

BainsBane

(53,037 posts)
7. Yes, I know
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 08:39 PM
Nov 2014

I had such arguments in mind when writing the OP. They also make a point of speaking out against those who object to catcalling rather than the violence used to maintain it. They make clear that they see speech--feminist and/ or in support of human dignity--as obhectiobable, as "bullying," because it interferes with what they see as their natural right to impose their will and their presence on women. If a woman says attention is unwanted, that should be enough. Instead, they insist their will , their right to exercise power, is more important. Their very arguments in justification for catcalling demonstrate the extent to which the behavior is about control.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
8. +1. I don't buy it was because of something else, either. They wouldn't do it to a man, boss or LEO.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 04:58 AM
Nov 2014

This is the reasoning I heard from cops sent on domestic violence calls when the men in such cases, said they were sorry and had just 'lost control.'

The cop said that 'losing control' is very selective. When there is someone they beat on they just do whatever they wanted to do anyway.

But when they see the lights flashing and the uniform, suddenly sugar wouldn't melt in their mouth. There are all innocent lambs then.

Bullies and predators know exactly what they are doing. If a person is truly 'out of control' the person they go after may be more powerful. That's insane.

The rest is just the dirty little game they pull on whoever they think they can get away with it on. So I don't buy that, either, but then, I always knew that.

I wish a full recovery for this man who did the right thing and justice on the one who tried to kill him for daring to interfere with his sport.

Yeah, it's a sport. One the ccr's expect to win and won't be denied. In any other context, they wouldn't dare.




chrisa

(4,524 posts)
6. I've found that catcallers are also the same types that want to start fights.
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 08:29 PM
Nov 2014

When walking one day, these guys who were sitting on the sidewalk started threatening us and trying to start a fight. We just kept going, not looking at them or saying anything. Then, surprise surprise, they started catcalling these women that were walking behind us. The women walked quickly away from them silently, and you could see they were afraid.

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