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sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 11:50 AM Jun 2012

More paternalism from our daddies in Washington...

The Bush administration, those geniuses who brought us great ideas like a long, expensive war against a country that didn't have weapons of mass destruction and flying over Hurricane Katrina en route home from a vacay, had another Brains Turned Up to 11 idea that it now seems didn't work: a multimillion dollar federal program designed to encourage poor single mothers to get married, thus solving all of their financial (and moral) problems. But rather than cut funding to a wasteful, ineffective religious program designed around the assumption that what women need is a man, any ol' man, the government continues to pour millions and millions of dollars into so-called "healthy marriage" initiatives. Where's a giant Mission Accomplished banner when you need it?

The unholy union between the government and churches created programs that sound like they were written to be a humorous subplot on Parks & Recreation. The usual suspects in Congress — Rick Santorum, Chuck Grassley's crazy ass — were behind the Federal Healthy Marriage Initiative, which took bunches of money and threw it at organizations that presented seminars designed to put "a little sizzle" in low income people's marriages and encourage unmarried poor people to tie the knot already.

One such program, Laugh Your Way America, was designed by a non-Spanish speaking minister from the Midwest who adapted his Laugh Your Way to a Better Marriage seminars to target poor Latinos. Nothing funnier or more marriage-solidifying than a white dude from Wisconsin trying to teach poor people about humor. I mean, laughter's some pretty good medicine, but you know what's better than laughter for curing stuff? Actual medicine. Like the medicine these low income people can't afford. Isn't that hilarious? I'm so amused that I could just get married!

http://jezebel.com/5921043/dont-bother-trying-to-wife-your-way-out-of-poverty?utm_campaign=socialflow_jezebel_facebook&utm_source=jezebel_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow


Does anybody do snark with a lesson attached better than Jezebel? I love that site.

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More paternalism from our daddies in Washington... (Original Post) sufrommich Jun 2012 OP
I think that is the biggest problem with a big government Drale Jun 2012 #1
I agree, this is not a "big government" problem.nt sufrommich Jun 2012 #2
"Laugh Your Way..." redqueen Jun 2012 #3
I hate the way religious groups have captured the government, the right-wing at least, but they LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #4
Teaming up with others, yes... redqueen Jun 2012 #5
That's a perfect example of what I'm saying! :) They help each other financially, and they LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #6

Drale

(7,932 posts)
1. I think that is the biggest problem with a big government
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 11:59 AM
Jun 2012

is that programs like this get lost in the hubbub and just waist money. But still the advantages of a bigger government out-weight the problems. Maybe we can get this stupid program in the publics eye and get it deleted.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
3. "Laugh Your Way..."
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 12:05 PM
Jun 2012

Gawd these people are such incredibly stupid idiots.

$7,000 to $11,000 per couple? I agree with the writer, bypass the religion pushers and just give the couples the money.

LiberalLoner

(9,762 posts)
4. I hate the way religious groups have captured the government, the right-wing at least, but they
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 12:13 PM
Jun 2012

might have a point about married couples faring better economically. Not because they are married per se but because it is two adults together earning an income to pay for housing, food, etc. rather than just one person on their own.

The point I take from their push for marriage is this - people who can team up with other earning adults, have a better time of it financially than those who go it alone.

Until we can defeat the corporate stranglehold over our economy and our government, we have to figure out a way to just stay alive. Maybe the way to stay alive is what I see the poor Latinos of the DC area doing - they get a home with enough room to house, say, six adults (and maybe a kid or two) and they somehow manage to get along with each other and all stay together. That last part is going to be hard for many in our society because we have been raised as loners who want our own way (I know I was raised that way anyhow.)

I'm just looking at this as, how do we survive? Because I think things are going to get still worse, over the next decade or two. We might need to band together into small "tribes" so to speak to survive.

But marriage or going to church or reading the Bible or whatever - pffft. Who cares. But the idea of teaming up with others to survive....maybe that's an idea worth considering, until we are able to fight back and win.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
5. Teaming up with others, yes...
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 12:16 PM
Jun 2012

I've read about single mom friends moving into a house sharing type situation, where they help each other both financially and otherwise.

LiberalLoner

(9,762 posts)
6. That's a perfect example of what I'm saying! :) They help each other financially, and they
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 12:24 PM
Jun 2012

get great social support from each other and help in raising the children!

Sometimes I look at the societies that have had women living in one big abode and men living in another and think, maybe that makes more sense than the living arrangements that we have right now.

I just feel as if the way we live in the U.S., we are so isolated. We don't do the extended families thing any more (for some of us that's a good thing though), we don't tend to have close friendships with our neighbors (not like, say, The Honeymooners portrayed), and we are just....alone I guess.

Maybe there's a better way to live we could try as a society. If we want to.

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