History of Feminism
Related: About this forumDoes Manosphere Blogger Vox Day Really Support the Murder and Mutilation of Women?
Vox starts out by arguing that depriving women of education makes solid evolutionary sense:
Instead of being educated, Vox goes on to argue, girls should be married off young so they can start popping out babies:
Next, he defends the practice of throwing acid in the face of independent women:
He offers a similar rationale for female genital mutilation, before launching into this bizarre racist attack on abortion rights:
http://manboobz.com/2012/06/06/does-manosphere-blogger-vox-day-really-support-the-murder-and-mutilation-of-women/#comments
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i think it is important that we know what SOME men are being taught on the net. they are going to these sites, getting validation. some day, it would be interesting to do a more thorough thread on this.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)I'm not going to the link to view his site, but is it a pretty big site?
"R]aising girls with the expectation that their purpose in life is to bear children allows them to pursue marriage at the age of their peak fertility, increase the wage rates of their prospective marital partners, and live in stable, low-crime, homogenous societies that are not demographically dying. It also grants them privileged status, as they alone are able to ensure the continued survival of the society and the species alike. Women are not needed in any profession or occupation except that of child-bearer and child-rearer, and even in the case of the latter, they are only superior, they are not absolutely required."
I will tell you again Sea, you really must read A Handmaids Tale.It goes there and it's horrifying.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)cult like attitude i am seeing is really scary.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)I'm afraid I must insist.
i love you....
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)redqueen
(115,103 posts)PZ Myers is another guy who really gets it and is unafraid to speak up... he's the one who so enraged Day with his rational and logical analysis of evo psych nonsense.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)I had no idea how much batshit insanity was spread among the so-called MRA...I never paid much attention to it because I'm single, and I always thought the original root of the "movement" were angry dads who got the disproportionate end of the shit stick in divorce/child custody hearings...
Whatever the original meaning, those clowns have morphed into something very ugly, extreme and dangerous...Some of those MRA blogs regularly post 20+ page rants that read like some weird mix of FR, stormfront, and the conspiracy forums, but written with the sexual maturity of a 10-year-old...It's like a contest to see how much racially-coded, pseudo-libertarian Birchisms they can fit in each sentence...
redqueen
(115,103 posts)There may be some that focus on actual men's rights issues.
Mostly its just feminist bashing and other hateful screeds, as well as stalking, harassment, etc.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)At least I now see firsthand the mindset that keeps the mail-order bride (from 'traditional' countries, of course) industry going...
How did I never see how many little shits there were on reddit? (I'm just a regular reader of some video game discussions, which are pretty sane)...I see from the writing and general worldview that many of these ranters are in their teens/twenties, and yeah, I had my "all-women-are-lying-evil-soulless-whore-bitches-so-fuck-'em" phase in college, so I can only hope it's something most of them will grow out of...
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)to know about it. and there are no problems....
i go ack and forth not wanting to know either. but, if we do not know then we hardly are in the place to suggest there is no problem.
it is an eye opener. personally, i am just seeing all this stuff myself, getting more and more concerned.
LiberalLoner
(9,762 posts)staff. Said much the same things, ought to stop education for women, keep them in the homes, etc. Basically the AF is home to a lot of people who think this way, dominionists. Scary.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)i started hearing them in this area about 2003. they came down from colorado springs.
yes
scary
and yes
this is who they are, too
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)He's a regular "contributor" to Fundies Say The Darndest Things. Which is to say, his comments are often held up to laugh at.
That said, we've seen a few ultrafeminist posts that were as bad so I guess crazy comes in all flavours.
EDIT: Didn't notice the group this was from. I'll apologise and butt out.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)well, they do it too.
unless one does the research, they really are not in a position to make a judgment like yours. if you went out and did the research and then came back with info, i would be much more receptive.
edit: and i so get it walking into a group you are not aware of and posting. been there, done that.