"girls like certain things cause they're girls" and the "boys like certain things cause they're boys".

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Everybody knows girls are programmed to like pink so they can find the berries when they are gathering (while the big strong menz are off hunting).



I read a study that said so.



(Woke up on the snarky side of the bed today.)

They are conditioned to choose something.

When I was a little kid, I rejected most of it, without even realizing. When I started to get older, I was made to conform by being made to feel uncomfortable, so I chose to conform as it was easier and it was a choice. blech....

maybe it was all those years of Komen's pink EVERYTHING. But, to me, powder pink denotes anything but strong, independent and capable.

I think I'd paint a nursery sunny yellow and keep the saturated blue or pink out of the mix. I've seen some of my friends doing so now.

Interesting, though, that we once allowed children to be essentially gender-neutral for the first few years of life. I wonder how different things might be today for adults--with less emphasis on early gender conditioning with gender stereotypes.

aversion to pink or purple, and when he was 4, I got a fancy dollhouse for him for Christmas at his request. He still likes to play with it. But somewhere he's been infected with the idea that pink is for girls only, and he's obviously been teased about it by someone. Probably one of his little programmed-robot male playmates. You can't blame the little kids -- how many times have you heard fathers denigrate anything 'girly' in front of boys? I hear it all the time at the playgrounds. It's sickening, but it's the prevailing ethos in this sick culture.

I had not met her prior. I told whispered to her that she should be what she wants to be in life and to never ever let anyone tell her any different.

That she could do anything anyone else, a man, could do, if she wanted.

She had a smile from ear to ear. I think it's so important to instill, and say these things to our girls. I could tell how happy she was to hear it. It made me and her feel good.

Same with other pastels.

find at yard sales. Yellow, pink, white, whatever. When I put my gorgeous baby boy in his pink sleeper, everyone thought he was a girl. That was a normal reaction, but when I told them he was a boy, I got the double and triple take 'looks' that made me realize that people were VERY upset that I had done that. Like it was going to corrupt my child to wear a pink sleeper!

People sometimes thought I was a boy when I was little (age birth through about 5) because my mom thought "girls clothes" were so stupid she dressed me in boys clothes. And I had boys glasses and short hair.

That was 1965-1970.

Hahaha there is a picture of me in a ballerina tutu from 1970 (it was one of the costumes in my "costume bag&quot and it looks like a boy in drag.

I should ask her if she got "disapproval" vibes from other folks...

and that was in 1956.

For some inexplicable reason, I loved black, and would have worn my favorite black dress with tiny colored flowers every day if my mother had let me.

She explained to me (more than once) that black clothing was for older people. Little girls, she said, should wear light pink. And so began my lifelong disdain for pink clothing. I didn't like being forced into a mold, even as a small child.

And it's tragic how many of the little gender-programmed children will bully the unconditioned ones.

It's madness.

I cannot *believe* the conversations I have with adult humans who unquestioningly accept gender essentialism and actually get *angry* at the mere suggestion that conditioning has anything to do with it.

Madness.

We have bought plastic dishes and utensils sets that came in several colors including pink and blue. We have Netflix and he chooses both "boy's" and "girl's" shows. I admit that I became a little nervous about what other people would think when he chose the pink cupcakes at a birthday party and a pink bucket at "child development days". He's fairly gender neutral in most of his preferences. He isn't in day care or any organized children's activity at this point. There's a few children that he sees but I have not heard them tell him that he is wrong for liking certain things. We don't have commercial television either. It is interesting to note that his preferences or behavior at his age is not uncommon in the absence of active gendering.

not appalled by it. but, there are many. it is a wonderful illustration how society creates roles for us to play, and how we willingly fall into these roles.

I think its ridiculous to fear your son will turn out gay just because they like pink stuff. The assumption should be blown straight out of the water by the presence of ultra-macho, gay biker culture.

he wanted me to have another baby, and i was not gonna do it.

meh... to all that conditioning.

oldest had the prettiest pink jammies. he looks good in pink.

didnt destroy his masculinity, nor take hubby down to the grown seeing his oldest dressed in pink.

Thats a start.