Gun Control Reform Activism

flamin lib

(14,559 posts) Tue Feb 3, 2015, 11:48 AM Feb 2015

Alabama had third-highest rate of gun deaths in 2013, gun control advocacy group reports

We're number three! We're number three! Alabama! Alabama! Won't stop til we're number ONE!

"Alabama, where a firearm is present in more than half the state's households, had the third highest rate of firearm-related deaths in the nation in 2013, according to a report from a gun control advocacy group."

This is from the VPC (https://www.vpc.org/) so the gun nuts will immediately dismiss it as biased and totally false. See, even if the data comes from the CDC or the FBI, once a gun safety group touches it all the data becomes flawed. Go figure. Kinda' flies in the face of 'more guns make us safer'.

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2015/01/alabama_ranked_had_third-highe.html

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Alabama had third-highest rate of gun deaths in 2013, gun control advocacy group reports (Original Post) flamin lib Feb 2015 OP

thump thump thump thump jimmy the one Feb 2015 #1

Florida, retire to gunnut heaven! jimmy the one Feb 2015 #2

Needs a thread of its own. nt flamin lib Feb 2015 #3

did x my mind jimmy the one Feb 2015 #4

jimmy the one

(2,708 posts)

1. thump thump thump thump

Reply to flamin lib (Original post)

Tue Feb 3, 2015, 01:59 PM

Feb 2015

The Lone Star State already permits teachers to have firearms in the classroom, but H.B. 868, also known as the Teacher’s Protection Act, would authorize instructors to use “force or deadly force on school property, on a school bus, or at a school-sponsored event in defense of the educator’s person or in defense of students of the school that employs the educator.” Instructors would also have the right to use deadly force “in defense of property of the school that employs the educator.” Moreover, civil immunity would be granted to those who use deadly force, meaning they would not be liable for the injury or death of student.

thump thump thump thump, god, damn, texas......

instructing teachers that they are to use deadly force in defense of school property and that they don't have to worry about getting sued afterwards, now that adds a whole new layer o' Texas.
I'm honestly trying to come up with a scenario in which having a teacher execute someone on campus "in defense of" school "property" does not sound like the dumbest thing anyone has ever proposed, and I'm drawing a blank. Perhaps the bill's author, State Rep. Dan Flynn (R-BecauseDuh), has this sketched out in his own mind, but the rest of us may need a bit more explanation.
Then again, summary execution for property crimes has been high on the Texas list of must-have laws for some time now, so expanding it to every teacher at your kid's school must no doubt be considered a perfectly logical extension.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/01/29/1360958/-Texas-bill-will-allow-teachers-to-kill-students-to-protect-school-property?detail=email

jimmy the one

(2,708 posts)

2. Florida, retire to gunnut heaven!

Reply to flamin lib (Original post)

Fri Feb 6, 2015, 10:24 AM

Feb 2015

This week's entry for 'There outta be a law' strip, is, FLORIDA!

Florida law allows people to build and maintain shooting ranges in their backyards. And unless an owner becomes negligent or reckless, there's nothing a neighbor can do.
For example: * There's no restriction on the type of firearms or ammunition that can be used in a backyard shooting range.
* There's no restriction on the time of day or night your neighbors can use their gun range.
* And there's no restriction on gun ranges near a public school, day-care center or neighborhood playground. Talk about the need for duck-and-cover lessons.

(picture): 2 of my kids and 2 of my neighbor's kids looking at the "gun range" from their backyard fence.
So Florida law is cool with this. The cops are not cool with this, but tell me there's nothing they can do. The city attorney says he can do nothing. The NRA threatens any town that dares try to pass an ordinance against this... crazy governor Scott made certain in 2011 that any public official trying to pass a local ordinance or otherwise prevent this would be removed, fined $5,000 and barred from using public resources to defend him/herself.

Question for Bush and Rubio, take 6: "Help me understand Stand Your Ground, please. I have a neighbor shooting assault rifles a few feet from my backyard. I am in existential fear of my childrens' lives. Does Florida law mean I can kill him in self defense or that I simply have to live with it until his bullet passes through my kid, and then I can kill him
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/01/30/1361295/-The-Front-Yard-Gun-Range-Just-Feet-From-My-Neighbors-Kids-Bedroom-Window?detail=email

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)

3. Needs a thread of its own. nt

Reply to jimmy the one (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 6, 2015, 10:48 AM

Feb 2015

jimmy the one

(2,708 posts)

4. did x my mind

Reply to flamin lib (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 6, 2015, 01:34 PM

Feb 2015

I thought of that, but thought just to add it to one sorta related.

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