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el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 08:52 AM Mar 2014

Anti Theism and The Melting Pot

Anti Theism does seem to be a real thing, despite the efforts of a few to pretend that it doesn't exist. I am reasonably convinced that the vast majority of anti-theists at DU simply want to see religion disappear through the natural process of time. They simply envision a world in which the differences in religion melt away so that all that is left is a generalized agnostic atheism.

It put me in mind of the melting pot theory of racial differences. The phrase first appeared in a play in 1908, where it referred to all of the various Europeon races melding to become a unified white "American" race. This notion, when played out against the background of the First World War and then the Red Scare of the 1920s, lead to humiliating acculturation programs designed to make new immigrants as much like White Anglo-Saxon Protestants as possible.

This criticism that the melting pot produces a society that primarily reflects the dominant culture instead of fusing into a completely new entity is reiterated by other sociologists, anthropologists, and cultural geographers as "Anglo-conformity." This type of assimilation was seen as working like a one-way street and it was viewed as something that depended primarily on the cooperativeness of immigrants to be reoriented towards the dominant culture.

- From "From the Melting Pot to the Tossed Salad Metaphor:Why Coercive Assimilation Lacks the Flavors Americans Crave." by LeAna B. Gloor

Now our anti-theist friends aren't proposing acculturation programs to make us all think like they do; but the end goals are pretty similar. Rather than our current mosiac of various faiths and traditions, we would have one belief system. That seems limiting.

Bryant
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Anti Theism and The Melting Pot (Original Post) el_bryanto Mar 2014 OP
A good analogy. rug Mar 2014 #1
+1 Starboard Tack Mar 2014 #2
It is clear from arguing withthose in thd other room and reading their room that hrmjustin Mar 2014 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author LostOne4Ever Mar 2014 #4
What is toleration though? el_bryanto Mar 2014 #5
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rug

(82,333 posts)
1. A good analogy.
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 09:24 AM
Mar 2014

Despite the claims that the opposition is the intrusion of religious practice into government policies, an argument with which virtually no one here disagrees, the fundamental opposition is to religious belief itself as irrational and, hence, harmful to humanity.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
3. It is clear from arguing withthose in thd other room and reading their room that
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 10:31 AM
Mar 2014

Many want religion to be gone.

Some of them take great delight that this room gets little attention. All these exorcism gone bad posts are an attempt to make religion look bad.

That is ahy I ask for their conclusions but rarely do I get the answer they really want to say. Their are one or two that are up front about it.

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el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
5. What is toleration though?
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 05:22 PM
Mar 2014

When you read the comments of the people on that forum and in the religion forum, it's clear that many of them, particularly the anti-theists, don't see believers as being particularly worthwhile. Or to put it another way you talk about how it's nice to get different perspective and points of view - I agree with you - but there are more then a few anti-theists who see nothing of value coming from believers or religionists.

Bryant

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