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What is it like when your spiritual path is really working for you? (Original Post) Htom Sirveaux Jan 2015 OP
I'm a hopeless literalist when it comes to "paths" carolinayellowdog Jan 2015 #1
I appreciate you being the first to take the plunge. Htom Sirveaux Jan 2015 #3
UU harmony is about values and principles, not beliefs carolinayellowdog Jan 2015 #4
It's sometimes harder to remember the inherent worth and dignity of those who try our patience. Htom Sirveaux Jan 2015 #5
trying one's faith in humanity carolinayellowdog Jan 2015 #8
Vacations from DU are very healthy Htom Sirveaux Jan 2015 #11
i can't say my spiritual path works that well. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #2
Interesting. What would you have to do on your path to fulfill your expectations for yourself? nt Htom Sirveaux Jan 2015 #6
Pray more, do more spiritual exercises, and attend mass more. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #7
You are Episcopalian, right? Htom Sirveaux Jan 2015 #9
Yes I am Episcopalian and we call it the mass, eucharist, and the Lord's Supper. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #10
I wait. rug Jan 2015 #12
i know what you mean. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #13

carolinayellowdog

(3,247 posts)
1. I'm a hopeless literalist when it comes to "paths"
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 06:17 PM
Jan 2015

Sorry your open-ended question elicited no remarks, but it's both challenging and highly personal. I confess, after more than four decades of exploring various belief systems and practices, that nothing "works" for me as a spiritual path as much as hiking and kayaking. It can be very uplifting to be in the midst of agreeable companions singing hymns, etc.; or more often in secular settings working in groups devoted to harmonious collaboration towards worthy goals. And intermittently, I've devoted time to various solitary meditation practices. But feeling harmonious with the people around me, or with humanity as a whole, or with some cosmic emptiness-fullness-abstraction... is a pale reflection of the pure joy of feeling one with ALL LIFE in the outdoors. If someone would create the "Church of Rivers and Trails" I'd be first in line to join.

Modern life provides us with plenty of opportunities to be in the midst of other people, or to be all alone. But to deliberately put oneself in the midst of wildlife is not so easy for many of us. I can go years without visiting a church, but even a week without time on a trail, and I experience withdrawal symptoms.

Htom Sirveaux

(1,242 posts)
3. I appreciate you being the first to take the plunge.
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 08:33 PM
Jan 2015

And you're right, it's not an easy question for the reasons you mentioned. I would have shared something first myself, but I feel like I'm always in flux, spiritually. That's a big reason why I'm a UU: so I don't have to leave when my beliefs change.

carolinayellowdog

(3,247 posts)
4. UU harmony is about values and principles, not beliefs
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 05:25 PM
Jan 2015

Maybe that is why I feel more at home among them than in any other "faith community." Still, every time I see yet another post saying "all religions are equally bad" it gets a rise out of me re the UUs and Quakers, Buddhists and Jains... etc. However, the only conceivable result of raising those issues in DU outside this safe haven would be to get UUs and Quakers, Buddhists and Jains viciously attacked by obscurantist hatemongers.

Htom Sirveaux

(1,242 posts)
5. It's sometimes harder to remember the inherent worth and dignity of those who try our patience.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 05:23 PM
Jan 2015

Fortunately, we are all more than our opinions on religion.

carolinayellowdog

(3,247 posts)
8. trying one's faith in humanity
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 08:12 PM
Jan 2015

For those of us whose opinions on religion are very tentative, angry and self-righteous fanaticism is equally frightening and discouraging no matter what the source. In the real world, most of the people I know in secular organizations have never discussed their belief or unbelief and these fault lines never become issues. But the kind of furious dogmatic groupthink behavior that I've seen online from religionists (in the past) and anti-religionists (lately) scares me into wondering what evil lurks in the hearts of all the nice people I know. Time for another LONG vacation from DU I guess.

Htom Sirveaux

(1,242 posts)
9. You are Episcopalian, right?
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 09:58 PM
Jan 2015

I didn't know Episcopalians also called it a mass.
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What helps you keep the faith, if not those things?

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
10. Yes I am Episcopalian and we call it the mass, eucharist, and the Lord's Supper.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 10:02 PM
Jan 2015

I do go to mass but not as often as I should. I need to pray more often than I do. I always feel at peace when I pray but I just felk out of the habbit of doing it every day.

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