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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 11:51 AM Mar 2013

The future of religion in a post-secular world

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2013/03/201332915582457454.html

World religions are still treated as a divisive force rather than as a resource for ensuring greater harmony.

Last Modified: 30 Mar 2013 13:22

Anindita N. Balslev
Anindita N. Balslev is a philosopher based in India and Denmark. She obtained her Ph.D in Philosophy from the University of Paris. Her educational and professional experience in India, France, USA and Denmark inspired her to create a forum for ‘Cross-cultural Conversation’ (CCC).


The Dalai Lama along with other notables gathered in New Delhi earlier this month to discuss the future of global religious diversity [GALLO/GETTY]

About three decades ago in a conference held in Scandinavia, I heard a speaker passionately voicing a forecast made by some futurists.

These futurists, he said, were pretty much convinced that with the spread of secular political ideology and the increasing sharing of scientific technology, the influence and impact of the religions of the world will gradually subside and even that it is likely that these are to vanish from the face of this earth in due course of time.

I remembered that prophecy and how it has proven to be wrong with almost a sense of amusement, while providing a concept note for a significant international conference that was recently organised in order to celebrate 150th birth anniversary of Swami Vivekananda. This conference ‘On World Religions: Diversity, Not Dissension’ that has been hosted by the Indian Council of Cultural Relations in New Delhi (7-9 March, 2013), brought a number of speakers from various parts of the globe. Apart from running the event, it also gave me the possibility of spending a whole session conversing with HH Dalai Lama, Maulana Wahiduddin Khan, Dr. Karan Singh and Reverend Mpho Tutu.

The fact is that a common sharing of advanced technology by facilitating travel and communication in an unprecedented manner has not only affected possibilities for cross cultural exchanges and interactions in a profound way, it has also in the process made our multi-religious situation more glaringly visible than ever. Thus, despite all on-going - undoubtedly pertinent - interpretations of the notion of secularism and secularisation in political and legal discourses, some social scientists have in the mean time begun to describe our time as a post-secular era.

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rrneck

(17,671 posts)
1. This era is no more post secular than it was ever post religious.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 12:14 PM
Mar 2013

We are still the same critters we were ten thousand years ago. We still make clever things and howl at the moon. There is no religious resurgence because there was no religious waning. Religion focused on a deity is thankfully losing the ability to project power in the secular lives of people, but that doesn't mean the impulse toward faith is waning or should wane. The explosion of activities and organizations that depend on faith indicates that rather than waning the religious impulse is growing. It's just not growing in churches.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
3. Even though she attempts to define it, I am still unclear on what she means by "post-secular".
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 12:44 PM
Mar 2013

The article interested me more in terms of the arguments for embracing diversity and looking at what makes us the same, as opposed to what makes us different.

we simply cannot underplay the importance of a meta-philosophy that can help emerge a multi-religious global community that flatly refuses to perceive the phenomenon of diversity of traditions as an inevitable cause for dissension.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
2. Be it intellectual or religious
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 12:36 PM
Mar 2013

the underlying basis of our use of mind is oneupmanship. That's it.

What is called "spiritual", particularly under the guise of dogmatic religion, (across the spectrum) to me, can be seen as rather elaborate, and actually brilliant, diversion from the nature of intellect itself, which is about abstraction of reality.

Even the word "concrete" or describing something more "concretely" is an abstraction, in this case. All along, the intellect as a tool, (this works, that doesn't) has become a mode of being and a way of life, to the point where pointing that out to intellectuals or those who are religious is not only ludicrous, it can be damning and unsafe.

What we may be dealing with are underlying, conceptual structures that create, support, shape and mold the experience of a self, (or ego, as a superficial, internalized social structure) and we are living out the results of reality as a contrived manipulation, though letting-on to that understanding can be a modern equivalent of blasphemy.

Even the methods and nomenclature of science, (especially the physical sciences) has transcended the tight, binary compartmentalization of Aristotelian logic and moved towards a more Cartesian-style of comprehension and communication. The same can be had for non-dual approaches from the "spiritual" or philosophical side, e.g., gnosticism, Dzogchen, etc.

I am not, in any way, anti-intellectual, nor am I a theist or an atheist. In my current understanding they all fit into the same compartment of the mind dealing with reality in a subject/object, largely manipulative approach based on survival and thriving based on a basic template of cultural fabrications.

My point is that the nature of self itself and its true relationship to everything else is a matter of careful investigation into our conditioning and our capacity to easily substitute, (and even inhabit) worlds of worlds for what actually is. We may only ever be able to experience reality that way, but when it comes down to insight, suffering and our common plight as a species, self-serving interests can be found from academia to theology and finding the common ground and seeing into its nature could reveal something bright and clear for our future as a species.

Thanks!

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
4. Much of what you are saying here is very unfamiliar to me, but I certainly can embrace
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 12:47 PM
Mar 2013

parts of it. Particularly your last paragraph, where you seem to be taking the same position the Dalai Lama has recently voiced.

pinto

(106,886 posts)
5. I welcome any efforts that recognize, promote and support diversity. Religious, cultural, political.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 01:01 PM
Mar 2013

We *are* a diverse world. Interesting that the author notes increased technology and communication as a factor in that awareness.

(Side note) I read a good piece in the Monitor that looked at statistical analysis of religious, social, cultural customs done in western universities. In many instances the studies were done by sampling the most readily available cohort - the university's' own grad students. So results were dependent on the diversity of the student body. And at times limited by level of diversity.

It was an "Aha!" type article that made the case of a much more diverse and tolerant world than assumed. If I drag up the article, I'll post it here (CSM doesn't always include their in-print pieces on the website).

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
6. I think the internet has increased awareness of diversity and an understanding
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 01:06 PM
Mar 2013

that is unprecedented. It's so much harder to dismiss or hold prejudices against people once you have actually talked with them.

goldent

(1,582 posts)
8. Tough job, being a "futurist"
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 02:34 PM
Mar 2013

Half of the time you end up looking foolish, the other half of the time you are seen to be predicting the obvious.

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