And we really needed her this year.

I have a bridge for sale plus a limited time special offer discount for Hillary supporters.

of their cognitive dissonance

at Clinton supporters.

Clinton cannot win. If she says something that you disagree with she is evil and her supporters are fools. If she says something you agree with she is an evil liar and her supporters are fools.

Conversely; anything O'Malley or Warren or Sanders say gives them God-like status--no matter what their prior views or votes or statements on the topics were.

The double standard is palpable.

I don't agree with Clinton 100%. Indeed there is no candidate that I agree with 100%.

anything like that should be alerted on. I don't think her supporters are fools, some of them are not very nice but that come's with the primary season. I like Hillary a lot, I just won't support her ion the primary this time around. More of the same is not going to cut it, we need change big time. The middle class is holding on by a thread, the rich get richer the banks and Wall Street get more power and the poor and elderly are drowning. Yeah there are some of us who are going to go with anyone who talks economic equality. We may not get it, we didn't with Obama but Hillary's choice in advisers so far show us just which side shes going to take.

They are constant.

Tried to get some specifics from a Hillary supporter about the TPP the other day.

Nothing. 20 minutes of arguing about something else completely unrelated to politics before I figured out there was nothing there. Something about a post that I said Ha!, or was it Ha ha, or was it Ha, ha, ha. She was talking about my "Ha, ha's". OMFG

One in four workers in our state would benefit from a deal that allows US to sell their goods the same way the other countries sell their goods. A global trade deal would really assist WA workers---depending on the details.

I hear lots of arguing and dismay about the trade deal. But, I have yet to see anyone that actually knows what it is.

So, when I hear you continuing to attack Clinton and her supporters because she may or may not agree that a trade deal is a good idea, I don't feel like answering you again.

1. I don't know what is in the trade deal
2. A trade deal would benefit WA workers and businesses
3. I am for a trade deal that protects our workers and allows us to increase our markets.
4. You act as if you know exactly what is in the trade deal--and are shouting angrily from the roof tops. And I would venture to guess you do not even know enough about it to continue to act as if you are so smart and those who support Clinton are soo "OMFG" stupid.

OMFG yourself.

as do you!?

I know what happened to me after NAFTA and no other trade deal since has balanced the negative effects of NAFTA's "Feel good Christmas affect" on the US job market. Been there done that.

1. I don't know what is in the trade deal

Did you know what was in Nafta?

2. A trade deal would benefit WA workers and businesses

Links please

3. I am for a trade deal that protects our workers and allows us to increase our markets.

When has this ever happened.? Americans hardly buy American made cars and all of our manufacturing is gone.

4. You act as if you know exactly what is in the trade deal--and are shouting angrily from the roof tops. And I would venture to guess you do not even know enough about it to continue to act as if you are so smart and those who support Clinton are soo "OMFG" stupid.

OMFG is right.

It does not appear that you understood my post.

It appears that I completely understand your post. It's like no one has ever disagreed with you before.

that HRC is center-left. I voted for Obama knowing full well he was closer to the center than a lefty like me would be - he was our nominee, and no one who matched my positions ideologically was running against McCain and Romney. The furthest left we ever had was Kerry.

Who, exactly, is being 'fooled' as these posts claim?

Perhaps people post like that as a form of self-glorification? Makes them feel smarter than all those 'other' Dems?

that's wonderful. Some of us aren't.

.

fooled by Hillary's progressive rhetoric. Most of us already realize that actions speak louder than words.

that actions speak louder than words? LOL - Oh yeah - those Dems are 'fooled'. So good of you to 'warn' progressives they are being fooled, since they might be distracted by the constant stream of drool they can't seem to control.

This is a group for supporters of Liz Warren.

being 'fooled' by Hillary. Especially here at DU.

to discuss. Novel concept is it?

The concept that progressives are 'being fooled' by Clinton is utter horsepoo. Especially here at DU.

Or petition Skinner to set up a booth somewhere and people can submit article to you for approval before they post? You can correct the words and contents and shit like that. That way nothing will be posted that offends you.

Perhaps you can point out the foolish progressives who do, though.

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You're taking it too personally.

I AM curious why so many posts being left here assume Dem voters are being 'fooled' into supporting a Dem candidate.

I didn't support Howard Dean in 2003 because his overall record was that of a centrist - there were further left candidates capable of a serious national campaign and I chose Kerry. However, if Dean was the only Dem in the race at the time capable of a national campaign, he would have had my full support. I wouldn't have been 'fooled' into supporting him. In fact, I watched Dean evolve into a more progressive Democratic leader by the end of that campaign BECAUSE of his supporters.

Neither am I, so when I read the article & all the great info condensed into one piece, I didn't take it personally because I already knew all it said. But it is an effective article for getting the info out to the MANY Democrats who are busy with their lives that have no idea...

So I'm grateful to the author. If you go to Salon & click his name, you'll see he writes many informative articles. Just trying to educate & inform!

Jim Newell

You are misreading people if you think the problem is that they are taking it personally.

Whatever you say, blm.

Yeah I laugh too because so far I see center and a touch to the right.

She's my fave.

Hillary on the other hand,

to you without reading the name Hate it when that happens