Bernie Sanders
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http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/34781-paul-krugman-doesnt-get-itew York Times columnist Paul Krugman yesterday warned Bernie supporters that change doesnt happen with transformative rhetoric but with political pragmatism -- accepting half loaves as being better than none. He writes that it's dangerous to prefer happy dreams (by which he means Bernie) to hard thinking about means and ends (meaning Hillary).
Krugman doesn't get it. Ive been in and around Washington for almost fifty years, including a stint in the cabinet, and Ive learned that real change happens only when a substantial share of the American public is mobilized, organized, energized, and determined to make it happen.
Political pragmatism may require accepting half loaves but the full loaf has to be large and bold enough in the first place to make the half loaf meaningful. Thats why the movement must aim high toward a single-payer universal health, free public higher education, and busting up the biggest banks, for example.
But not even a half loaf is possible unless or until we wrest back power from the executives of large corporations, Wall Street bankers, and billionaires who now control the whole bakery. Which means getting big money out of politics and severing the link between wealth and political power -- the central goal of the movement Bernie is advancing.
eridani
(51,907 posts)Spot on! if we had demanded single payer in 2009, we might have gotten a public option. If you want $3000 for your used car, ask for $6000.
the full loaf has to be large and bold enough in the first place to make the half loaf meaningful.
Bernblu
(441 posts)It being a job in the Clinton admin.
newthinking
(3,982 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)Thanks for the thread, wilsonbrooks.
wilsonbooks
(972 posts)It's funny I really like Paul. I will be ever be grateful to him for standing tall during the bush years. He was almost alone among the punditry class in exposing them for what they were. I also wish that he had been invited to join the Obama administration. I believe that had he been, he might have been able to shift the focus from austerity measures to an approach that focused more on the plight of the middle/working classes and to help strengthen the rules governing the banks.
I do not understand what he has to gain from changing his position on Medicare for all (unlike Howard Dean who sold out to the insurance companies) and would really like to know. He supported H.C. over Obama in their primary fight in 2006 and I suppose that we are all human in that once we chose someone we tend to overlook their faults and to agree with them even when they are wrong.
Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)more on this issue.
I don't understand the motivation behind his change either?
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)about Women's Liberation. Huge endless, bloody marches brought us the Civil Rights Act.
BUT NOW - we won't have a Kent State National Guard incident, we'll have bloody massacres all over this country, in every city and every state because they, TPTB, have MILITARIZED every police department in damn near every city. They will NOT go quietly into the night. This-one-will-be-taken-by-force...if need be. Remember what they did to the OWS protesters.
We NEED Bernie, so we're going to have to fight for him.
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
wilsonbooks
(972 posts)When the people unite and stand up for what we believe in, we win. Where we made a mistake in the past is that once we won we went back to our normal lives. The reactionaries never stop, we must build a movement that never stops, never backs up, never surrenders.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)stonewalls him, we have to hit the streets again. Every time. We can't just let him fight them alone. We need to help him by booting the obfuscators out of office and electing Progressives who will get his agenda passed.
Congress is like a bunch of two year olds. They need constant reminders who's boss! They are OUR EMPLOYEES. They work for us. Their paychecks are paid by US. They're supposed to do what we what we elected them to do. They don't work for corporations or Wall St. or the MIC. They work for us and when they don't do what we want, we MUST fire them at election time. We can never be complacent again. Complacency got us to where we are today.
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
Proserpina
(2,352 posts)TBF
(32,062 posts)Yes, that's right.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)He had not seemed to be that much of an establishment/oligarch kind of guy, but this was way too obvious and part of the co-ordinated attack on Sanders by the Clinton Gang.
When Sanders wins the primary I wonder if he will change his tune.
Proserpina
(2,352 posts)Sheer intellectual laziness? Payola?
Who knows? It isn't rational, for sure, to trash your own reputation like that.