Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumNow watching Hayes and Kornacki continue the pro-Hillary, anti-Bernie crap that has today
dominated MSNBC, except for the Flint tragedy.
This is inexcusable and as undemocratic as it gets. MSNBC earned low ratings. Now, it's earning no ratings. Watch Tom Hartman, Ed Schultz and Cenk.
wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)just a bunch of Hill shills,bullshit like this is what may beat Bernie.Hope the online campaign is enough,
merrily
(45,251 posts)In part, both media and politicians prosper most that way. In part, that is unfortunately a requirement of access by journalists to politicians. That is one of many things in this country that should not be, but nonetheless is.
However, I want to know what they are up to during this primary. As one Sanders Group member put it, "Thanks for watching, so we don't have to."
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)Tom 5 nights a week.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Nite Owl
(11,303 posts)They didn't expect Bernie to get this far. I haven't watched much news, no msgop and cnn is mostly allTrump.
merrily
(45,251 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Zippo!
It turned into a nonstop Rump fest, intermixed with some Camp Weathervane.
Nothing fair...Nothing balanced...
I don't think it was ever fair and balanced. During the earlier Bush years, it was essentially RW and pro Bush: Don Imus in the Morning, Scarborough Country, Tucker Carlson, and so on. As Bush's approval numbers tanked, MSNBC began morphing into an essentially establishment Democratic station. I think the videos of Cenk speaking to this after MSNBC took his show away are still on YouTube. Throughout, MSNBC made no pretense of objectivity of any kind. When Obama was the establishment candidate, MSNBC was in the tank for Obama. While it was not awful to Hillary, it did her no favors. Now, Hillary is the establishment candidate and they started by all but ignoring Bernie and have morphed into hit jobs every day throughout the day. It's disgraceful.
DJ13
(23,671 posts)Nyan
(1,192 posts)You know, just boring news delivering information about issues. Because that's what news is; it's supposed to be boring.
It's not supposed to be looking for the next train wreck (e.g. Trump) for ratings, or cramming bullshit down our throats.
MSM is done. At this point, they're all a propaganda for millionnaires and billionnaires.
merrily
(45,251 posts)I don't know if news has to be boring, either. Pushing the same agenda and beating the same stories to death all day long is boring, though. That's what MSNBC does. Show after show covers the same stories, with the same slant.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Bernblu
(441 posts)I tweeted him and asked if it was in his contract that if he mentioned Bernie he had to mention that he was a socialist at least once. It's sad to see him turn into a toady for the corporate media but when they fire him I will shed no tears for him. I will soon be rid of cable anyway.
merrily
(45,251 posts)This is not only Hayes, but was pervasive throughout MSNBC. I think Morning Joe has dropped them because Halperin has said over and over on that show that there is no predicting what is going on in the Democratic primaries until the early primaries are over.
However, Hayes and O'Donnell and others still beat the inevitability of Hillary into every report on Bernie or the primary.
Tortmaster
(382 posts)... nearly every day, the news should report that.
When national polls come out with her winning by 20+ points this late in the game, they should report that.
When Nate Silver gives her about a 76% chance of winning in Iowa, one of Senator Sanders' best demographic states, they should report it.
When Secretary Clinton wins a debate or acts Presidential during a townhall, they should report that too.
When leading experts in their field come out for Secretary Clinton's plans over Senator Sanders' plans, they should report that.
The big news for Senator Sanders the last couple weeks have only been polls and one endorsement by move.on. They reported those, right?
I agree they shouldn't be reporting so much Trump.
merrily
(45,251 posts)this group is for DUers who want Senator Sanders to defeat Secretary Clinton in the upcoming primaries and caucuses. Your post seems better suited to other parts of this board, not this group. Since you've apparently been lurking at DU for years, I would have thought you would have picked that up.
Tortmaster
(382 posts)... safe places for each side's posters to post. I didn't realize I stepped in it. I guess I have. So, I am sorry.
ErisDiscordia
(443 posts)Maybe then they will cover it.
Bernin4U
(812 posts)People still waste their money on that shit...?
merrily
(45,251 posts)Duckfan
(1,268 posts)Haven't watched any MSgop program since Ed left.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)have anymore. THEY are part of WHY Bernie is doing so well.
The powerful are getting very nervous and desperate, they've lost control of the people! I think it's a good sign.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Good sign or not, it's bad behavior. It's not that I expected different. It's that, IMO, people should know.
Aside from that, sometimes, I just need to vent to and with my fellow Sanders supporters.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Expecting that part of the problem Bernie is running against to be fair, is the equivalent of expecting a sociopath to feel sympathy for his fellow human beings. I got over expecting anything but propaganda from our national propaganda machine.
That is part of what must be changed when we get a government that represents the people again, restore the airwaves to the people.
I cannot possibly be disappointed in what is nothing more than the propaganda arm of oligarchs.
MSNBC is among the worst. After Keith Olberman left, they were done.
merrily
(45,251 posts)fairness.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)I guess 'unfair' is too kind a word for our Corp Media, imo. I would just call it what it is, propaganda for Corporate America. You are way nicer than I am.
merrily
(45,251 posts)the establishment for some time.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)watch Michael Moore on Lawrence O'Donnell. For the first 20 minutes, maybe more, couldn't take it so I left and went to do some stuff, O'Donnell talked about Donald Trump. I think he said 'Donald Trump' about 200 times. I missed the beginning of MM's segment because I just can't TAKE the obvious distractions participated in by our so-called 'progressives' on MSNBC.
All I can say is thank the gods for the internet and for some of the foreign media where i get to see our real journalists, who will never be seen on the Corp Media.
I get angry just thinking about it. I get angry when I go to Parisan forums, like this one, which I do less and less for the same reasons.
I believe all this, the Corp Media, partisan forums like this, are going to be thing of the past. No young person I know are on forums like this or listen to the Corp media.
What does it say that the largest registered voting bloc now is Independent? Future political blogs will not be partisan imo. They will simply be people who care about this country, not cult like groups who spend their time hating anyone who doesn't agree with them.
The only way to diminish the power of the Corp media is to boycott it. And I think considering their ratings, and inability to influence voters, see Bernie, anymore, that is actually happening
Social Media is where people are, where they get their news. I love it that morons like Chuck Todd is 'puzzled' by Bernie's success. After all he did his job to push the Corp candidates.
That shrinking bubble they live in blinds them I guess.
merrily
(45,251 posts)I'm not sure because the largest bloc registered voters in Massachusetts has long been "unenrolled," our version of independent; and Massachusetts is very Democratic.
Divide and conquer" and "divide and rule" have been strategies of rulers for millennia. As this primary reflects, division has been elevated to an art form (albeit performance art). The 99% have been carefully divided from each other, by race, by politics, etc. I hope for our sakes that we do find ways to come together because it is us against the plutocrats and us against us obscures that, to say the least.
Stevepol
(4,234 posts)The CORPSE MEDIA. Corporations are at least possibly "people," that is, according the the SC. The "media" has no pulse.
It's dead. Brain dead right now and rigor mortis started setting in years ago.
merkins
(399 posts)then again I thought I knew Howard Dean, Paul Krugman, and a host of others.
I will say I'm glad to have these people on record for future discussion and evaluation.