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eridani

(51,907 posts)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 05:39 AM Feb 2016

The radical left has Bernie Sanders all wrong

They mean the lefties who don't think Sanders is left enough.

http://www.salon.com/2016/01/31/the_radical_left_has_bernie_sanders_all_wrong/

When talking about the right wing, radicals like to stress how the likes of Donald Trump give the green light to street violence against black people, Mexicans and Muslims. Yet, they don’t ask how left politicians may give the green light to social movements they are sympathetic to. For instance, Bernie supported DREAMers on hunger strike. Bernie became critical of Rahm Emmanuel echoing Black Lives Matter demands. Bernie lent public support to CUNY workers’ rights before they voted to strike. Sanders’ political revolution would require mass mobilization of exactly these constituencies: African-American, Latinos and workers. Sanders calls for street mobilization as part of the political revolution.

Radicals argue that the masses get co-opted by elections. This just doesn’t line up with lived experience. They point to the enthusiasm around Obama’s 2008 victory as proof that politicians simply manipulate voters. That may be true, but it is untenable to say that social movements were co-opted by Obama. Since Obama’s election this country has witnessed a steep rise in social movements. Disappointment after Obama raised expectations may have partly fueled such a movement to the streets. Occupy Wall Street was unprecedented. The growth of Black Lives Matter and the DREAMers movement developed principally in the years since Obama came to office. The idea of electoral co-option sounds theoretically plausible, but it is simply a theory without standing in our reality. One socialist website even makes it seem that Bernie will undermine the revolutionary working class’s aspirations for syndicalist control of the economy. This kind of thinking is the result of a mind-body split. These radicals are clearly not experiencing the embodied world around them. Instead they seem to be using deductive logic based on theory, not sound history. It is worth noting that 1936 and 1946, in the midst of the New Deal—which much of Bernie’s platform alludes to—had some of the largest mobilizations of strikes in American history. People were not co-opted by the New Deal; they were emboldened by it.

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The radical left has Bernie Sanders all wrong (Original Post) eridani Feb 2016 OP
I have no patience for those who refuse to vote for the most left merrily Feb 2016 #1
+1,000,000 Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #2
I don't believe Bernie is left enough either. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #3
Well put. Mbrow Feb 2016 #4
Spreading Ever More FUD cantbeserious Feb 2016 #5

merrily

(45,251 posts)
1. I have no patience for those who refuse to vote for the most left
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 05:44 AM
Feb 2016

viable candidate in decades, or ever, emphasis on viable. If you want to keep this country moving to the right, you're correct not to vote for Sanders. Otherwise, give a break with pyrrhic positions.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
3. I don't believe Bernie is left enough either.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:56 AM
Feb 2016

But I do think he's a left as we can get to win an election atm. Not even because he's at the 'leftmost' fringe of acceptable, but simply because it's as left as he is, and he's already a really good candidate simply from 40 years of steadfastly believing it's his job to serve the people, rather than simply make himself rich at their expense.

Bernie is not a flash in the pan, he's the culmination of decades of his own work. He's been building street cred politically for almost as long as I've been alive. We need to be using data NOW to be identifying and helping the Bernies of today, so they're positioned 4 decades from now to be President then. And the Bernie now is energizing those people. He's got them thinking 'If we can do this now, why can't I make more happen on down the road?'

Bernie is the beginning, not the end.

And, even should he fail to win the Presidency, thanks to a more carefully crafted campaign strategy on the part of the Clintons, most of the people he has energized will NOT simply be roped into voting for continued corruption in the Democratic Party. Bernie will not be the sheepdog the far left fears, because even though he would call for his followers to vote Democratic, we're not sheep any more. Each of us is looking up from the grass, looking around for ways to work to make things better for all of us now, ourselves. Not simply following the herd, and continuing to let the shepherd live off of us, take our substance, even take our lives.

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